And that’s when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side, from the Dumbing of Age Book 6 Kickstarter stretch goal you didn’t even know was there.
(also we got Saturday and Sunday updates renewed for another year, hooray!!!!!!)
Ass-kissing
And that’s when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side, from the Dumbing of Age Book 6 Kickstarter stretch goal you didn’t even know was there.
(also we got Saturday and Sunday updates renewed for another year, hooray!!!!!!)
207 thoughts on “Ass-kissing”
Ana Chronistic
“You’ll be like Melania!”
“WHAT”
“well, okay, no one’s paying THAT much to watch you–this IS Indiana, after all”
Clif
I’m undecided whether Melania is a well-known anime character and so I don’t get the joke, or if your just playing your Trump card.
AnvilPro
Conflict resolved! Conflict resolved! Conflict resolved!
Woobie
Well, I don’t expect Billie to move for another 3 years at least.
In 2020.
Cerberus
Well, given the usual timetable of room reassignments… yeah, she’s not moving until the comic is over.
Rukduk
This is so true I laughed, cried, and then grumbled curses about my old college roommates under my breath.
butting
Remember the good old days when there was talk of the grownups in charge establishing order and doing the right thing by throwing Mary out?
Ha. Ha. Ha.
sigh.
Ansel
it could still happen. Of course, now there’s the risk of ex-roommates taking Billie and Mary’s rooms, and Billie and Mary being combined in a different floor or building to replace them D:
butting
That’d require Chloe to do something which ehhmmm yeah not really seeing that happen.
(though if Chloe’s show-up-to-work-and-cash-cheques work ethic means less hostile attention on Becky, yehhh, let’s take it.)
DSL
“Heart in right place, head up ass,” is how we described the Chloes in our work environment back when it was a work environment.
begbert2
I’m still not sold on the “Chloe is a horrible person who cares about nothing except being paid for doing nothing.” She could be quite well-meaning but neither a psychologist or skilled at reading expressions. Sir is almost certainly extremely polite and congenial in public, and Ruth’s declarations that she’d rather be fired and unemployed and on the streets or whatever could have easily sounded like depressed self-defeatest rambling. Chloe certainly cares for Ruth and wants what’s best for her, which (to the obvious view) is both psychiatric care AND a job that includes the benefits of working at the school that is providing it. So Sir’s solution probably seemed like a godsend to somebody who cares about her.
Is suppose the proof in the puddinghead will be whether she shows up with a brace of security guards, points at Becky, and shouts “Seize her!!” while standing over a low camera, underlit and with lightning flashing in the background. That at least would be a fairly unambiguous bad sign.
Fart Captor
She doesn’t have to be an absolute monster to be awful. She clearly seems to MEAN well, but you don’t need to be skilled at reading expressions to pick up on the fact that Ruth did not want to keep her job, and that there wad something fucked up going on between Ruth and Grandpa Asshat that she should follow up with Ruth about it (even though discussing it before bringing that asshole into this would have been much better)
Hell,I think that between Ruth’s protests, her clearly troubled expressions, add the fact that he practically dragged Ruth out the door, even Dina would’ve noticed enough to check with Ruth to make sure this was actually helping Ruth, and there wasn’t anything important she was missing.
Chloe didn’t need to be perfect at her job, or a therapist on the side to avoid this. She just needed to actually check in with the person she was making decisions for, or notice just one or two of the numerous red flags, and follow up with Ruth to see if something was wrong, making the tiniest effort to verify the assumptions she was acting upon.
Instead, Chloe just charged ahead, never seeming to question whether the course of action which just *happened* to be the most convenient for her was actually beneficial for Ruth at all.
Nyzer
@Fart Captor
You’re expecting her to be able to tell the difference between someone being terribly ashamed around their apparently doting (if overbearing) grandfather after attempting suicide, and someone freezing up from too much experience with emotional abuse.
Chloe is seeing exactly what she expected to see, what Grandpa Asshole probably groomed her to expect to see while he was talking with her in the office.
Dragon_Nataku
1) Ruth was in the hospital. Someone has to pay for those bills and I don’t think you can get student health insurance as an international student (Ruth is Canadian). I’m not defending Chloe on this but that’s basically the same reason my abusive parents got called in when I ended up in the hospital under similar circumstances.
2) I don’t expect Chloe to know anything about Ruth and her grandfather’s relationship since Billie barely knows much about it and Ruth doesn’t exactly open up about stuff (even we don’t know the extent, but even if it did fall under “a threat to self or others” I don’t think Ruth’s shrink has any obligation to tell Chloe specifically anything). However, the fact that she only calls him “Sir” should be a huge red flag, plus how she was acting around him. One assumes that, as Ruth’s direct superior, Chloe should at least know what “normal Ruth” acts like. She seems close enough to her to at least know something about that when Chloe showed up at the hospital.
So yeah, excusable on some fronts, not so much on others.
Fart Captor
@Nyzer:
Her failure began before he showed up. Sure, there’s lots of stuff we know that she doesn’t, but a lot of that’s because she doesn’t ask. She doesn’t check with Ruth to verify she still wants the job, much less any help keeping it. She doesn’t check if involving her grandfather is okay, or even Ruth know. She apparently thinks it’s reasonable to not to Ruth in any of these decisions or even inform her, even though she hadn’t spoken to Ruth since she’d had that one brief conversation at the health center. They literally did not speak again until Chloe cryptically told Ruth about the meeting.
Sure, all that could just be caused by sucking at her job, but her complaining about how hard it would be to find a replacement while ignoring Ruth desperately telling her to get someone else is what sealed it for me.
thejeff
@Dragon_Nataku: Ruth’s from Canada, but there’s little reason to assume she’s not a US citizen. She’s an Indiana resident. Her grandfather lives there. The simplest assumption is that he’s a citizen and that her mother was also, allowing Ruth to inherit citizenship even if she was born in Canada.
Camille Chanu
I’d say things are different, since Dina knows she might have problems interpreting situations correctly, but Chloe is pretty sure (wrongly, as we know) that she is interpreting things correctly
Nyzer
Yeah, she really comes across as just not having the experience to realize the difference between Ruth acting ashamed and depressed and Ruth acting like an emotional abuse victim.
And, as far as she’s aware, the current situation is about as good as it can get for Ruth. I mean, what’re the other options? Ruth gets fired (which does look bad on a future resume, no matter the reason) and possibly has to leave uni, essentially just winding up stuck at her grandfather’s home with nothing productive to do in between therapy sessions.
OR she keeps her job, gets treated with kid gloves by her manager, gets to stay in school without having a conflict of interest thanks to Chloe now personally handling any future potential issues with Billie, and remains near the people who care about her well-being (from Chloe’s perspective, this at least means Carla and Billie – possibly others depending whether she talked to other students about Ruth), while being probably a bit more likely to continue taking therapy and medication, as she’s staying active.
The blackmail situation is completely resolved now, and as far as Chloe’s aware, that and the relationship with Billie were the only stressors of the job. (Not including Grandpa Asshole’s unseen influence, the same is true from the readers’ perspective as well.)
To Chloe, Ruth’s protests LOOK like nothing more than the self-loathing and total lack of self-confidence one would expect to see in someone who just attempted suicide. Chloe’s trying to show that she trusts Ruth and has confidence in her, while also dealing with her situation herself, in what seems to be the best possible way.
Her unease around her grandfather can very, very easily be interpreted as simple, overwhelming shame after a suicide attempt, which again is something one would expect to see. Sure, the way he talked to her might raise some suspicions – if he hadn’t just shown up to spend the day countering every (obvious) negative consequence of Ruth’s hospitalization and affair, which isn’t something you’d EXPECT an emotionally abusive guardian to do.
thejeff
Honestly, I’m not even sure this isn’t the best option for Ruth. It’s nasty as hell taking away her agency and forcing her into it, but her chances of pushing through depression and finding a job and a place to live and arranging loans and everything else needed to get/keep her life together on her own are not great.
trlkly
thejeff: NO, JUST NO. You even start it right. It’s evil that they took away her agency. That makes it wrong. That means it is no what’s best for her.
What’s best for her is for her to get therapy, not be in charge of even more stress that she can’t handle.
I get tired of this need to defend evil shit. It’s why Trump is president. Stop it.
Fart Captor
^^ yeah, the fact that even Ruth of all people seemed to feel like she could figure it out is pretty strong testimony to just how much better off she would have been.
Not having that responsibility weighing down on her was clearly doing her a lot of good.
trlkly
That probably comes off too mean. But I do get frustrated about this. I really do think this natural tendency to come up with excuses is a huge problem, and is indeed why Trump was palatable for a lot of people–they just constantly make excuses for him.
Until Trump, I just saw it as a quirk of human behavior. But now that quirk had real consequences.
That said, I’m not saying you’re a Trump supporter or anything. I’m just frustrated with this pattern now that it’s hurting people in real life.
I get “looking on the bright side,” but that doesn’t pretend that the bad thing is “what’s best.” The bad thing is never “what’s best.” And taking away the autonomy of someone who is mentally ill is always wrong (except not letting them commit suicide).
In short, this is not what’s best for Ruth, not by a long shot. And pretending it is can only make what Pudding Head and “Sir” did seem not so evil.
thejeff
Of course she should be in therapy (though she wasn’t given any agency in choosing that either?)
And it would also be better if Clint would happily support her college career without forcing her into the RA job – which she’s lousy at and is horribly stressful for her.
But the actual alternative we’ve seen is “losing housing and on the street looking for work, loans & a place to live while still suicidally depressed.” It’s really hard for me to get behind that even if she thinks it’s better.
Clint’s an asshole and he certainly doesn’t have Ruth’s best interests in mind. Chloe, I think, actually does, but she’s been snowed by Clint and is missing all the red flags. No excuses for him. Provisional ones for her.
trlkly
For fuck’s sake. It doesn’t matter that she can’t read expressions. Everything Chloe did about this was wrong. “Sir” should not have even been contacted. A depressed person who was just suicidal should not be in charge of the day-to-day lives of other people. She cannot handle this job, and if Chloe gave a shit, she wouldn’t make her.
No, “Sir” came in and paid Chloe off. That’s who Chloe is. The type of person who takes a bribe.
StClair
I don’t think he bribed Chloe – rather, the bribery was done at higher levels, in the guise of “donations”, and the orders came down from those levels to Chloe to make everything go smoothly for Mr. Hughes and his granddaughter.
Liliet
I mean let’s be honest Ruth/Billie relationship can REALLY benefit from Ruth being no longer in charge of personally her. This is a good thing, even if Ruth can’t see it as such yet.
Clif
In the Ruth/Billie relationship, Ruth was not really the one in charge. At least not once it started. Ruth was in charge back when Billie was someone she was punishing for her parent’s death. After Billie decided that if Ruth was going to hell she was taking Billie with her, not so much.
Liliet
It’s honestly complicated, and it could stand to be less so. Also, privileging Billie over other floor residents is as much a problem as asserting power over her.
Reltzik
Except, you know, her moving means time’s up for Becky, so it’ll actually happen in a timely manner.
Nono
I read that in the voice from Crisis Core.
Krys Brynhildr
Such a great game…that the ending leaves me bawling during the entire final special fight sequence after the last boss. Super hard to survive the maximum time limit on that when you can’t actually see properly, but I did it.
Pigeon Pollyx
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh shit I’m not anticipating THOSE words going over well
butts
That’s cold, Ruth
miados
they are shipping away the ship?
Nono
If Garfield taught me anything, Billie is never getting shipped to Abu Dhabi.
Baronbrian
She could go the Lyman route
Leorale
I hear that the Amazon is very nice this time of year.
Gwen
… if Carla has anything to say about it
Cholma
Doh!
inqntrol
Yeah I heard they have quite a good coffee over there.
Chris
What about Fed-Ex? Heard they offer deals
Chris
Oh wait. Never mi d, thought you meant the company Amazon. Durp. Anyway, Billie should see Scotland. Heard they’re having nice weather. *cues Joe Covenant*
Cholma
Knowing Willis… I hope Billie likes the Amazon!
Falling Star
She’d be the best Amazon.
Delicious Taffy
Billie doesn’t have a dog to abandon with Ruth, though.
Kris
The chance she has is to change her personality and appearance to become an evil we don’t recognize!
TemporalShrew
Maaaaaaybe the “I don’t really care too much about *that*, though” delivery wasn’t the best choice here, Ruth?
BBCC
“Elsewhere” in the Giver sense.
Run, Billie.
ety
yikes
BBCC
Yeah, it’s a freaky ass book. Good enough that I went out and bought a copy after reading it for school though.
Krys Brynhildr
Great book. Messed up society in it though. Which…was sort of the point.
BBCC
Exactly.
Goblin Scribe
I never really got where Karl Marx talked about a dead baby chute, but The Giver assures me it’s in that manifesto, so I will keep looking.
Rukduk
Holy shit that’s darker than I expected.
BBCC
It was just past midnight, morbid jokes were entirely appropriate!
Rukduk
I live in a different time zone but point taken.
BBCC
Fine, appropriate for my time zone. 😛
Historyman68
Did anyone actually see the movie with TaySwiff?
Historyman68
It just didn’t feel like a book that could… use a movie, like at all.
Krys Brynhildr
Nope. I mean why would I need to when I could just read the book again? You know, if I wanted to be sad over some quality literature for some reason.
BBCC
No, but I meant to.
Kernanator
Time for Billie’s identical twin “Penelope” to make an appearance!
No Name
So what, they’re Penny and Jenny? (watch as three other people make that joke before me)…
No Name
Oh hey! I was wrong!
Tan
They also have some brothers who are identical triplets of each other: Benjamin, Kenneth, and Leonard.
Literally none of them are amused when you offer to take them to Denny’s.
DSL
Indeed, they don’t find it at all fenny.
John
Well, I mean, just because they give you a room in a different dorm doesn’t mean you can’t still spend all your time in Ruth’s bed. Makes things a bit awkward for Becky, though.
I’m still kind of hoping Billie gets swapped with Malaya. I bet Lucy’d be okay with putting Becky up, and Sal and Malaya as roommates would be endless hilarity.
I initially read Ruth’s self-identification in the penultimate panel as “warlord”. I think I prefer that.
BBCC
I don’t think that Indiana university is interested in being a murder scene. Particularly someone with so many blood stains.
Rukduk
Hey, when the apocalypse happens Indiana University will be happy to embrace Ruth as their rightful lesbian warlord who reigns from atop a throne made of the femurs of her enemies.
…
Ok, now that I read that, that sounds like the beginning of really metal anime.
BBCC
I was referring to the murder that would take place should Malaya and Sal be forced to live together, but I like your idea better.
Gamaran Sepudomyn
Bi warlord. Why does no one ever seem to remember that they’re both bi?
BBCC
It doesn’t help that Ruth doesn’t know how she identifies, her only romantic or sexual interaction on screen was with Billie, and she refers to them as a ‘sexy lesbian suicide pact’.
Billie, though, there’s little excuse – she’s tried to get some from Joe, Danny, Tony, etc. and also tried to mack on Sal before getting with Ruth.
John
And Alice, and Ethan… and I kind of suspect she’s got a deeply buried thing for Walky. Actually, I tend to just assume that Billie’s tsundere for pretty much everyone.
BBCC
True about Alice and Ethan. I’m inclined to believe her about Walky though, if only because I know how utterly off pissing it is to have people refuse to believe you’re just friends with someone and then using you being mad as ‘proof’ you like them, somehow.