From the under eye line in panels 3 and 4, it looks she’s straining under the weight of the trauma and her own expectations but won’t acknowledge either. Really hoping someone sits her down and tells her it’s okey to not be okey all the time.
Needfuldoer
Can’t feel trauma if you run away from it full-tilt in perpetuity.
As history teaches us, defining “sanity” is really nothing more than an exercise in power.
Now, I really wanna know is what standard was used to rate Sarah as the “most sane” here.
Gigafreak
Fucked, isn’t it? It is not sane to believe things that are untrue, and yet sanity is also closely tied to normalcy– to fit in with society. And society demands people believe things that’re untrue all the time (from big things like the American Dream to small things like “I’m fine”). Sanity is insanity and insanity is sanity and I can’t tell whether I’m being driven insane or… Anti-non-un-insane.
Joy
This is a really good point.
autogatos
Yeah I think what our society calls “sanity” is generally just: whatever society considers the most “normal” emotional/psychological behavior based on what’s common and what’s culturally acceptable.
No one is 100% mentally/emotionally balanced, some people are just better at blending in or their irrationality or emotional reactions just happen to be the sorts those around them find acceptable.
Anyway, re: Dorothy I’ve always gotten the impression she has a bucketload of anxiety and doubt that she tries very hard to hide by pretending she has eeeeeverything under control and trying to take charge and fix everything.
TheCatCameBack
As a psychology major, gotta step in on this one: Mental illness is defined as something that is harmful to either ourselves or those around us. If you go to a therapist wondering if something you do is normal, a good therapist will say: “well, is it hurting you or the people around you? If it’s not, don’t worry about it.” There are discussions of changing the names of classes called “abnormal psychology” to “mental illness,” because depression and anxiety in this era have become so common that they are kinda a normal thing to experience. Just cause they’re normal it doesn’t keep them from being harmful though. Psychology has had major pushes away from defining mental health as what’s common in society, but since we’re social creatures, definitions are always going to be partially reliant on it- because it can be quite harmful to us when our behaviors prevent us from socializing in the way that society wants. We can lose support networks, friends, and family. And this is why gayness wasn’t taken off the list of mental illnesses until like 1973, because it took awhile for psychologists to go: okay, being gay is not common, but it’s normal. It can’t be “cured,” and the personal harm comes from unaccepting societies, not queer people themselves. Sanity and insanity are legal terms though, not medical ones, so I can’t say what Ruth’s alluding to here, but here’s my two cents
Re: being gay, THIS right here!!! In this same vein, it is very much my hope that autistic traits can be accepted as normal in spite of not being common.
autogatos
I am definitely seeing a much bigger push for that lately! Speaking as someone heavily involved in the disability community, there are sort of two distinct categories of what our society currently defines as “disability.” Those that are definitely an abnormal, inherently harmful state, and those that are more likely just variations of normal but get lumped in with disability because society is not set up to accommodate those particular types of variations.
The former might be things like a chronic illness (like lupus, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, a seizure disorder, etc), which causes clear impairment regardless of social tolerance or accommodations. Even in the most accommodating society, they would still be disabilities that cause problems for people if there is no cure.
I know a lot of people in the disability community view autism as more the latter: just a normal variation within the range of how human brains work. I am not autistic myself so I don’t want to speak for anyone who is, but I know there are people who are who consider it a disability, and people who are who do not, and I think how someone views it per their own experience is valid regardless.
I score juuuuust outside “the spectrum” and some autistic traits do seem to overlap with ADHD (which I do have) symptoms. But the fact that I identify with so many autistic traits but not enough to qualify for official diagnosis furthers my belief it is just one end of a large spectrum of variations in how our brains work, and I guess I sit somewhere in the middle, definitely not neurotypical and constantly struggling when interacting with neurotypical people because of it.
Stuff like ADHD is probably a bit more of a grey area. One could argue it’s just a variation of thinking patterns, and it may have benefits like increased creativity/non-linear thinking, and would definitely be less difficult to deal with in a society with less pressure, deadlines, responsibilities, etc. But I also feel like it makes it hard to think in general which would maybe make it at least somewhat disabling regardless. But I don’t know how much that matches the experience of others with ADHD. I also suffer from brain fog as a result of POTS (I have EDS, it’s linked with POTS, MCAS, and ADHD, and even often autism) and it’s sometimes hard to tell whether this is “just the way my brain is wired” or if it’s that I’m literally not getting sufficient blood to my brain and if THAT is what causes ADHD like symptoms in people with EDS (though it seems to respond to the same treatment as any other presentation of ADHD).
Anyway, I do hope in general society continues to be more tolerant and accommodating to neurodiverse people and accepts the idea that it’s just another variation of normal.
Inahc
personally my autism is a mixed bag… parts of how I think are very “me”, but the sensory issues? I really wish any research was being done on treatment for that. sometimes just having skin is torture, and there’s no accommodation that’ll make that not be hell (although bamboo fabric helps somewhat). my kingdom for sensory volume controls!
PS – I’m never sure where my executive dysfunction comes from either. it was *better* before the brain fog rolled in, but when I mentioned suspecting ADHD to my friends, several were like “oh yeah that makes sense” – I was very much the “hyperfocus and forget to eat/pee” type long before my body fell apart.
Joy
This. ??
autogatos
Oh yeah I know in both a medical and legal sense these things have more set definitions. I just meant colloquially what society/culture refers to as “sanity” outside those contexts. As in, how those around you (without medical degrees) view whether or not your behavior and mental processes are “normal” or “abnormal.”
Jamie
The metric Willis is using? Put me down as betting, “willingness to acknowledge that life is shitty, especially in ways that apply to other people”.
Axel
I’m very late but agree (sanity defined by those in power). When I said Dorothy was not sane, obviously it was a little tongue in cheek, but I meant that she seems not to be in the best, most rational place right now, especially for giving advice/making decisions for other people (I think that unless one cannot understand enough to consent to something (ie an invasive medical treatment), or is actively going to harm themself, there is almost no time where one isn’t sane enough to make decisions for themself)
autogatos
Oh yeah I agree! Dorothy is good at HIDING her stress, which may make her seem a bit more neurotypical, but she also clearly has many mannerisms and ways of doing things/thinking that rub her peers the wrong way so I’m not sure how many in her dorm would consider her one of the “most sane” by the social metric.
Also continuously shoving her trauma down is absolutely not healthy and is definitely a great way to end up having a full on breakdown eventually!
I suppose we could argue she tries to approach situations rationally, but even then her metric for what is “most rational” is not going to be the same as everyone else’s. For her, ignoring or ending interpersonal relationships in favor of career goals/schoolwork is most rational. To someone who values their emotional connections over that stuff, that would be irrational.
So I guess it just depends on what kind of advice Ruth is actually looking for. I.e. why she (presumably) wants to break up with Billie. Ultimately I think that’s an impossible question to ask anyone and truly get an answer that is most right for the person asking, because everyone is going to form an opinion based on what would be best within the context of their own feelings/priorities. The only person who can REALLY decide what’s best for Ruth in this scenario is Ruth. Though bouncing ideas off others and hearing what they might do in your shoes can definitely still be helpful as far as giving you different ways of looking at it and seeing if one response feels more right than any other.
The Bimacharial Man said that the voice of God was just our own thoughts mistaken for a god.
But no…it was Cthulhu all along.
eh, whatever
The Bicameral Mind?
Y’know, a mind with two chambers? Not a man with two knives (machaira)…
C.T. Phipps
To clarify, I’m mocking the word rather than misspelling it because it’s a ridiculously condescending theory primarily promoted by people like Dawkins that attempts to infantalize Bronze Age civilizations (let alone all the peoples beforehand).
C.T. Phipps
It occurs to me you may have no idea what I’m referring to:
I sometimes hear voices calling after me that I need to pay for that before I leave the store but they’re typically on the heavier side and I successfully escape them.
I mean, really, Carla is a sound choice. The advice she gave Malaya about gender was insightful and sincere, and her assessments about what goes on between all her dormmates are accurate if sometimes snarky. She’d be a solid choice here.
But she’s also an asshole. Not a bad person, necessarily, but an asshole. I assume Ruth approached Dorothy because she wants to break up in the most appropriate and considerate way possible. “Appropriate” and “considerate” are not Carla’s strong suits.
What you do is you say, “I baked all my love from you into this pie” and then when they cut into, they realize it’s just the pie crust with no filling, which, like, how did you get the top crust to stay up like that with no filling, that’s impressive– and they think about that while they cry.
is she emotionally intelligent enough to pick up on the breakup clue?
thejeff
I’m not sure we’d pick up the breakup clues if we didn’t know there was a breakup coming.
And that’s assuming there isn’t a twist coming, which wouldn’t surprise me at all. After all the hints, “Ruth decided to break up with Jennifer and did it on Halloween” seems a bit tame.
It’s hard to say because “sane” is a pretty rough metric here. But I’d probably extend outside of the main cast. Not to, like, Rachel, for the purpose of Ruth getting advice. But maybe Agatha? Or Mandy? Ooo, Bloodrose.
Maybe the whole president ideal is a coping mechanism for Dorothy. Like a security blanket. As long as becoming president is possible the world makes sense.
If it wasn’t then, it sure as hell is now. The Dorothy mental breakdown is going to be nuclear.
Archieve
She’s made being president such a rigid life goal I fear even the slightest suggestion that presidency is not guaranteed for her could be the breaking point.
C.T. Phipps
Like I said, I really wish we had a 2016 Presidential Election comic for Child Dorothy.
Nicoleandmaggie
Dorothy addresses this (the naysayers telling her she’s delusional) in her Twitter feed.
I do not think it is a problem. And I think she’d be a decent president (after 30-40 years of public service).
Archieve
I dont disagree that she would be a great president. It’s the fact that she’s making it her whole identity that is worrying because no matter how over qualified you are for a job there’s always a chance you wont be chosen, especially when there are politics involved.
Yeah, that’s my read on it too. Although, it is rather unwise to put all your eggs in one basket, and count your chickens before they hatch, both of which Dorothy is doing here.
Yeah like; what’s Dorothy’s major anyway? Is she choosing law or whatever because many Presidents did that or what? Does she actually like it though? What would she pick otherwise if being President wasn’t her goal? Would it still be law/whatever she chose to achieve that goal?
Sometimes you can know even that you don’t like something but feel stuck as you don’t know what you do want.
Dorothy being the one to help Ruth break up with Billie makes her reminding Ruth that they ‘lost’ Billie even more of an asshole move, ngl. ‘Remember Billie? Your ex-girlfriend? The one you broke up with? Her? Your ex? Who I gave you advice for breaking up with? Her? Remember?’.
It is pretty interesting though. Dorothy broke up with Danny because he’d been far too attached to her, and had no real plans for himself while also lowkey hoping her own plans plateaued so he could stick with her. She broke up with him for his own good. I can absolutely see how Ruth feels she must do the same for Billie.
Wasn’t that Boomer who brought up Ruth losing someone during their quick fire psychoanalysis at the dorm meeting?
Or was that a different time that I’m forgetting about?
Also, when did Dorothy want Danny to stick with her?
The comic has been going on for years, so I could just be blanking on that, but it does not sound familiar.
She’s definitely wanted to mess with Walky again a few times, but I don’t recall her feeling the same towards Danny.
227 thoughts on “Advice”
Ana Chronistic
do we have an objective assessment that Dotty is, in fact, sane after all of that tho
Axel
doesn’t seem like it
Archieve
From the under eye line in panels 3 and 4, it looks she’s straining under the weight of the trauma and her own expectations but won’t acknowledge either. Really hoping someone sits her down and tells her it’s okey to not be okey all the time.
Needfuldoer
Can’t feel trauma if you run away from it full-tilt in perpetuity.
[Dorothy doing the Roll Safe forehead tap meme]
Ana Chronistic
Dorothy perpetually arriving late to feel the trauma vs. Evil Librarians
autogatos
Someone needs to sit Dorothy down with a blanket and a cup of hot cocoa and read The Berenstain Bears and Too Much Pressure to her.
Kyrik Michalowski
Sanity is relative, some people believe they hear a voice that tells them what to do. Is that normal? No. Is it sane? Jury’s still out on that one.
For the time being though, we can estimate Dorothy’s sanity with a simple question: Do you still want to date Walky?
The Wellerman
As history teaches us, defining “sanity” is really nothing more than an exercise in power.
Now, I really wanna know is what standard was used to rate Sarah as the “most sane” here.
Gigafreak
Fucked, isn’t it? It is not sane to believe things that are untrue, and yet sanity is also closely tied to normalcy– to fit in with society. And society demands people believe things that’re untrue all the time (from big things like the American Dream to small things like “I’m fine”). Sanity is insanity and insanity is sanity and I can’t tell whether I’m being driven insane or… Anti-non-un-insane.
Joy
This is a really good point.
autogatos
Yeah I think what our society calls “sanity” is generally just: whatever society considers the most “normal” emotional/psychological behavior based on what’s common and what’s culturally acceptable.
No one is 100% mentally/emotionally balanced, some people are just better at blending in or their irrationality or emotional reactions just happen to be the sorts those around them find acceptable.
Anyway, re: Dorothy I’ve always gotten the impression she has a bucketload of anxiety and doubt that she tries very hard to hide by pretending she has eeeeeverything under control and trying to take charge and fix everything.
TheCatCameBack
As a psychology major, gotta step in on this one: Mental illness is defined as something that is harmful to either ourselves or those around us. If you go to a therapist wondering if something you do is normal, a good therapist will say: “well, is it hurting you or the people around you? If it’s not, don’t worry about it.” There are discussions of changing the names of classes called “abnormal psychology” to “mental illness,” because depression and anxiety in this era have become so common that they are kinda a normal thing to experience. Just cause they’re normal it doesn’t keep them from being harmful though. Psychology has had major pushes away from defining mental health as what’s common in society, but since we’re social creatures, definitions are always going to be partially reliant on it- because it can be quite harmful to us when our behaviors prevent us from socializing in the way that society wants. We can lose support networks, friends, and family. And this is why gayness wasn’t taken off the list of mental illnesses until like 1973, because it took awhile for psychologists to go: okay, being gay is not common, but it’s normal. It can’t be “cured,” and the personal harm comes from unaccepting societies, not queer people themselves. Sanity and insanity are legal terms though, not medical ones, so I can’t say what Ruth’s alluding to here, but here’s my two cents
The Wellerman
Re: being gay, THIS right here!!! In this same vein, it is very much my hope that autistic traits can be accepted as normal in spite of not being common.
autogatos
I am definitely seeing a much bigger push for that lately! Speaking as someone heavily involved in the disability community, there are sort of two distinct categories of what our society currently defines as “disability.” Those that are definitely an abnormal, inherently harmful state, and those that are more likely just variations of normal but get lumped in with disability because society is not set up to accommodate those particular types of variations.
The former might be things like a chronic illness (like lupus, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, a seizure disorder, etc), which causes clear impairment regardless of social tolerance or accommodations. Even in the most accommodating society, they would still be disabilities that cause problems for people if there is no cure.
I know a lot of people in the disability community view autism as more the latter: just a normal variation within the range of how human brains work. I am not autistic myself so I don’t want to speak for anyone who is, but I know there are people who are who consider it a disability, and people who are who do not, and I think how someone views it per their own experience is valid regardless.
I score juuuuust outside “the spectrum” and some autistic traits do seem to overlap with ADHD (which I do have) symptoms. But the fact that I identify with so many autistic traits but not enough to qualify for official diagnosis furthers my belief it is just one end of a large spectrum of variations in how our brains work, and I guess I sit somewhere in the middle, definitely not neurotypical and constantly struggling when interacting with neurotypical people because of it.
Stuff like ADHD is probably a bit more of a grey area. One could argue it’s just a variation of thinking patterns, and it may have benefits like increased creativity/non-linear thinking, and would definitely be less difficult to deal with in a society with less pressure, deadlines, responsibilities, etc. But I also feel like it makes it hard to think in general which would maybe make it at least somewhat disabling regardless. But I don’t know how much that matches the experience of others with ADHD. I also suffer from brain fog as a result of POTS (I have EDS, it’s linked with POTS, MCAS, and ADHD, and even often autism) and it’s sometimes hard to tell whether this is “just the way my brain is wired” or if it’s that I’m literally not getting sufficient blood to my brain and if THAT is what causes ADHD like symptoms in people with EDS (though it seems to respond to the same treatment as any other presentation of ADHD).
Anyway, I do hope in general society continues to be more tolerant and accommodating to neurodiverse people and accepts the idea that it’s just another variation of normal.
Inahc
personally my autism is a mixed bag… parts of how I think are very “me”, but the sensory issues? I really wish any research was being done on treatment for that. sometimes just having skin is torture, and there’s no accommodation that’ll make that not be hell (although bamboo fabric helps somewhat). my kingdom for sensory volume controls!
PS – I’m never sure where my executive dysfunction comes from either. it was *better* before the brain fog rolled in, but when I mentioned suspecting ADHD to my friends, several were like “oh yeah that makes sense” – I was very much the “hyperfocus and forget to eat/pee” type long before my body fell apart.
Joy
This. ??
autogatos
Oh yeah I know in both a medical and legal sense these things have more set definitions. I just meant colloquially what society/culture refers to as “sanity” outside those contexts. As in, how those around you (without medical degrees) view whether or not your behavior and mental processes are “normal” or “abnormal.”
Jamie
The metric Willis is using? Put me down as betting, “willingness to acknowledge that life is shitty, especially in ways that apply to other people”.
Axel
I’m very late but agree (sanity defined by those in power). When I said Dorothy was not sane, obviously it was a little tongue in cheek, but I meant that she seems not to be in the best, most rational place right now, especially for giving advice/making decisions for other people (I think that unless one cannot understand enough to consent to something (ie an invasive medical treatment), or is actively going to harm themself, there is almost no time where one isn’t sane enough to make decisions for themself)
autogatos
Oh yeah I agree! Dorothy is good at HIDING her stress, which may make her seem a bit more neurotypical, but she also clearly has many mannerisms and ways of doing things/thinking that rub her peers the wrong way so I’m not sure how many in her dorm would consider her one of the “most sane” by the social metric.
Also continuously shoving her trauma down is absolutely not healthy and is definitely a great way to end up having a full on breakdown eventually!
I suppose we could argue she tries to approach situations rationally, but even then her metric for what is “most rational” is not going to be the same as everyone else’s. For her, ignoring or ending interpersonal relationships in favor of career goals/schoolwork is most rational. To someone who values their emotional connections over that stuff, that would be irrational.
So I guess it just depends on what kind of advice Ruth is actually looking for. I.e. why she (presumably) wants to break up with Billie. Ultimately I think that’s an impossible question to ask anyone and truly get an answer that is most right for the person asking, because everyone is going to form an opinion based on what would be best within the context of their own feelings/priorities. The only person who can REALLY decide what’s best for Ruth in this scenario is Ruth. Though bouncing ideas off others and hearing what they might do in your shoes can definitely still be helpful as far as giving you different ways of looking at it and seeing if one response feels more right than any other.
C.T. Phipps
The Bimacharial Man said that the voice of God was just our own thoughts mistaken for a god.
But no…it was Cthulhu all along.
eh, whatever
The Bicameral Mind?
Y’know, a mind with two chambers? Not a man with two knives (machaira)…
C.T. Phipps
To clarify, I’m mocking the word rather than misspelling it because it’s a ridiculously condescending theory primarily promoted by people like Dawkins that attempts to infantalize Bronze Age civilizations (let alone all the peoples beforehand).
C.T. Phipps
It occurs to me you may have no idea what I’m referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameral_mentality
Mancuso
I sometimes hear voices calling after me that I need to pay for that before I leave the store but they’re typically on the heavier side and I successfully escape them.
Johan
It’s the peppiness for me
Thag Simmons
Eh, Sane is relative
Yet_One_More_Idiot
Of course she isn’t sane. In fact, she’s completely Dotty! ;D
Doctor_Who
It’s obviously Carla.
Her solution to Ruth’s problem will involve pies.
pope suburban
I mean, really, Carla is a sound choice. The advice she gave Malaya about gender was insightful and sincere, and her assessments about what goes on between all her dormmates are accurate if sometimes snarky. She’d be a solid choice here.
Regina phalange
But she’s also an asshole. Not a bad person, necessarily, but an asshole. I assume Ruth approached Dorothy because she wants to break up in the most appropriate and considerate way possible. “Appropriate” and “considerate” are not Carla’s strong suits.
Clif
A pie is not an appropriate way to break up?
Ana Chronistic
I’m sure we’d all rather break up a pie
Yumi
What you do is you say, “I baked all my love from you into this pie” and then when they cut into, they realize it’s just the pie crust with no filling, which, like, how did you get the top crust to stay up like that with no filling, that’s impressive– and they think about that while they cry.
Clif
<3
Darkoneko
Dorothy, the emotionnally intelligent one … ? Apparently that’s not what people tell her, usually
thakoru
I think Dorothy IS quite emotionally intelligent, for the most part, but she has some pretty big blind spots, mostly regarding herself.
Clif
is she emotionally intelligent enough to pick up on the breakup clue?
thejeff
I’m not sure we’d pick up the breakup clues if we didn’t know there was a breakup coming.
And that’s assuming there isn’t a twist coming, which wouldn’t surprise me at all. After all the hints, “Ruth decided to break up with Jennifer and did it on Halloween” seems a bit tame.
Thag Simmons
By the standards of this wing? Absolutely
BBCC
Good question Ruth! Who would you all say is second?
I see Willis says Sarah. I’d say it’s either her or Sal. What do you think?
True Survivor
I think Sarah, as well.
If we expand beyond the wing to cover the building, Danny is, for the moment, probably the most put together (not by a lot, but still).
Sirksome
Are we just using the girls exclusively? Cause Jacob is likely the most sane member of the regular cast. I’m sure he’ll show up eventually.
Reltzik
Ruth’s specifying the wing. Jacob’s in Beck 3 and this is Clark 3.
Leorale
Sierra seems calm and well-adjusted.
Fëanen
Ruth, not knowing her well, is likely to see the perpetually bare feet as a red flag.
Yumi
It’s hard to say because “sane” is a pretty rough metric here. But I’d probably extend outside of the main cast. Not to, like, Rachel, for the purpose of Ruth getting advice. But maybe Agatha? Or Mandy? Ooo, Bloodrose.
Vanessa
I agree, the main cast is the main cast because they are drama magnets and make dumb but entertaining choices.
Nicoleandmaggie
Definitely Bloodrose.
Doctor_Who
Sarah is fairly rational, but I worry that the areas in which she has…deficiencies would line up with Ruth’s and create some sort of feedback loop.
“But what if I don’t HAVE a bat?”
“That’s where your specialty comes in handy. A femur is about the right shape and size to substitute!”
Nono
Honestly depends on what metric you’re using.
Dina is smart and sane, but often lacks contextual clues.
Becky is culturally aware and smart, but has emotional shields.
The Wellerman
An excellent point!
Reltzik
Sal’s got issues that translate into difficulties establishing and maintaining interpersonal relationships.
I’m leaning towards Rachael being the sanest. Go ask her, Ruth! What could possibly go wrong?
(Or maybe Other Rachael. Or maybe Mandy or Grace. Possibly Sierra.)
BarerMender
She’s not the most sane, but for emotional advice Becky might be good.
Lars
Haven’t seen enough of Rachel and Other Rachel in this universe but it’s worth a try.
Sirksome
Maybe the whole president ideal is a coping mechanism for Dorothy. Like a security blanket. As long as becoming president is possible the world makes sense.
True Survivor
Yikes that is bleak. I never thought of it that way, though it makes sense in retrospect.
Bryy
If it wasn’t then, it sure as hell is now. The Dorothy mental breakdown is going to be nuclear.
Archieve
She’s made being president such a rigid life goal I fear even the slightest suggestion that presidency is not guaranteed for her could be the breaking point.
C.T. Phipps
Like I said, I really wish we had a 2016 Presidential Election comic for Child Dorothy.
Nicoleandmaggie
Dorothy addresses this (the naysayers telling her she’s delusional) in her Twitter feed.
I do not think it is a problem. And I think she’d be a decent president (after 30-40 years of public service).
Archieve
I dont disagree that she would be a great president. It’s the fact that she’s making it her whole identity that is worrying because no matter how over qualified you are for a job there’s always a chance you wont be chosen, especially when there are politics involved.
Nono
Every obsession is a coping mechanism on some level.
eh, whatever
Well, define “obsession”.
The Wellerman
Yeah, that’s my read on it too. Although, it is rather unwise to put all your eggs in one basket, and count your chickens before they hatch, both of which Dorothy is doing here.
Dana
Huh. I thought the bird on the presidential seal was an eagle. Learn something new every day. 🙂
justin8448
Could be. As long as being president is her goal, she doesn’t have to think about what actually-possible things she might want in life.
Heather
Yeah like; what’s Dorothy’s major anyway? Is she choosing law or whatever because many Presidents did that or what? Does she actually like it though? What would she pick otherwise if being President wasn’t her goal? Would it still be law/whatever she chose to achieve that goal?
Sometimes you can know even that you don’t like something but feel stuck as you don’t know what you do want.
Laura
Poli. Sci., I think.
Doopyboop
Dorothy being the one to help Ruth break up with Billie makes her reminding Ruth that they ‘lost’ Billie even more of an asshole move, ngl. ‘Remember Billie? Your ex-girlfriend? The one you broke up with? Her? Your ex? Who I gave you advice for breaking up with? Her? Remember?’.
It is pretty interesting though. Dorothy broke up with Danny because he’d been far too attached to her, and had no real plans for himself while also lowkey hoping her own plans plateaued so he could stick with her. She broke up with him for his own good. I can absolutely see how Ruth feels she must do the same for Billie.
cbwroses
Wasn’t that Boomer who brought up Ruth losing someone during their quick fire psychoanalysis at the dorm meeting?
Or was that a different time that I’m forgetting about?
Also, when did Dorothy want Danny to stick with her?
The comic has been going on for years, so I could just be blanking on that, but it does not sound familiar.
She’s definitely wanted to mess with Walky again a few times, but I don’t recall her feeling the same towards Danny.
Sirksome