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Thanks for buyin' up a buncha Shortpacked! and Dumbing of Age books this weekend, folks! I... received more orders than I have padded envelopes. And I had a BUTTLOAD of padded envelopes.
So, um, anyway, some of you who ordered on Sunday may be waiting for more padded envelopes to arrive.
Thanksgiving weekend sale TOO SUCCESSFUL.
353 thoughts on “Clothes”
Ana Chronistic
“DontExplainTheJoke.jpg”
“I believe your URL is missing a domain address.”
“…n/m”
John
I was gonna say, Dina looks so happy about having successfully made a joke that I almost don’t want to tell her that she shouldn’t explain it.
saki
The way she explains it is too adorable to tell her shouldn’t do it.
Proxiehunter
If she hadn’t explained it I wouldn’t have realized there was one. I would have just assumed she was wearing an old shirt of her girlfriends.
Liliet
Sometimes, explaining the joke IS the joke.
Jen
Agreed. 🙂
Icalasari
I think her joke works better because it was explained, actually. One could mistake it for one of those, “Oh sarcastically explaining the not so obvious joke hahah!” and walk off before Dina realizes there is any meta humour in it
Annie
I don’t think I would have noticed simply because Anderson’s color is so similar to IU’s. I would have subconsciously accepted it as an Indiana sweatshirt and mentally breezed right past it.
I had this issue before when Becky was wearing that Anderson hoodie. Or maybe it was an Anderson t-shirt? I dunno. I just remember being confused as to why Becky had an IU shirt until I went back and looked closer.
Aeron
We’re teaching her irony next year.
Mollyscribbles
. . . so, next century?
Scots Dragon
Or maybe next year in real time. So… tomorrow?
N0083rP00F
That is so last century. Isn’t everything dry clean only these days?
Cerberus
I would agree, her explanation makes that joke, especially the matter-of-factness of noting how the ideology behind it regards her and her girlfriend to be abominations worthy of Hell. Wringing wry humor out of the muck of what her girlfriend has gone through and an acknowledgment that while she may have been raised to not think there is much importance to the type of person she becomes romantically or sexually attracted to, the opinions of others have impacted her relationship.
It’s the type of dark humor that really notes her evolution as a queer individual, mining lightness out of the darkness and mocking the threat that this type of worldview hangs over those who experience attraction to those of the same gender.
Honestly, personally, it’s my favorite punchline in a good long while and had me giggling like an idiot for awhile because it’s the type of joke me and my friends would make.
Cassidy
…I really don’t think that joke is about Dina “as a queer individual”. I think that’s just Dina. Frankly, I’d be surprised to find out that she actually really had a sexual identity or even much of a gender one.
Chris
“gender queer” – not part of the cis binary.
Chris
TBF, I’m pretty sure she identifies as cis female… it’s not her gender that’s outside the binary, only her sexuality.
Marie
I’m pretty sure she meant queer as in generally not straight, and although it isn’t exactly a joke about evolving her feelings on the matter it nonetheless shows that she does group herself that way.
Cerberus
This. She definitely identifies as something other than straight even if she is not overly concerned with finding an appellation that fits it yet and this seems to be a major moment of owning what comes from that.
Deanatay
I’d hesitate to even call her ‘queer’ right now, as her relationship with Becky isn’t very sexual. Becky, at least, has had one experience to define her sexuality (which defined it very much in the ‘lesbian’ direction).
At their age, everything is still very fluid. I look forward to seeing how things ‘flow’!
Cerberus
Well, I mean, she’s at least queer in terms of romantic orientation as demonstrated by her dating a woman and showing genuine romantic feelings for her. Even if she was a flavor of ace or something like a bi/pan-romantic heterosexual, that would still be a queer identity.
John
This thread has way too much Roz in it.
Anyway, it never even occurred to me that Dina might be referring to her sexuality here. I figured it was her identity as an “evilutionist” that she was talking about. Which I think is a lot more important to her than the sex of the person she’s smooching.
Agemegos
Yeah, I don’t think Dina sees it as dark humour. The threat (of eternal punishment, not of toe-shaped fanatics) is even less than when your girlfriend’s kitten tries to murder your ankle. It’s just funny.
Robert Graves once defined “mythology” as “whatever religious or heroic legends are so foreign to a student’s experience that he cannot imagine them to be true”. It’s not just other people’s religion: it’s religious belief that seems so bizarre and implausible that you keep having to remind yourself that “people actually believe this… stuff”. And that’s why the ‘New Larousse Encyclopaedia of Mythology’ (in which Graves wrote what I quoted) includes Hinduism and Buddhism but not Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.
I don’t think Dina’s religious background has been explored, but it’s very possible that she grew up in a household where it was simply never discussed. Her social contacts before coming to IU seem to have been very feeble, so it’s possible that she has never discussed the subject with anyone who believed in ghosts and souls and spirits and gods and afterlives and sin and absolution or any of those hypotheses. And so although she knows that many people do believe in them such belief might easily seem quaint and not-quite-imaginable to her. Alternatively, she might have been raised in a not-really-religious-but-culturally-Buddhist family. At least some schools of Buddhism (including Zen in Japan, I think) teach that there is no such thing as an individual soul nor any such thing as immortality.
So it’s altogether possible, even likely, that Dina finds the belief in immortal souls — or any souls at all — to be just as mythological (i.e. impossible to take seriously) as the recent Creation or the divine authorship of the Bible. Anderson’s belief that her absurdly immortal absurd soul will be tortured eternally by their invisible friend. Joking about it would then be about as dark as joking about the kitten’s infuriated assault on one’s shoe.
Agemegos
Dammit, I missed a point in there that I spent a paragraph setting up: Everyone’s religion is mythology to someone else, not just wrong but absurd.
If Dina is a lie-long materialist or the atheist agnostic daughter of lapsed Zen Buddhists, then Joyce’s and Becky’s divine-authorship literalism cum young-Earthcrationism Christianity, perhaps even all religion, might be mythology to her. Then the threat of Anderson’s God tormenting her soul eternally might seem even funnier than the kitten, because the kitten at least exists, and being mauled to death by felids is a kind of thing that does happen. The kitten is only an absurdity of scale; the God torment thing would seem to Dina an absurdity of kind. Gods aren’t even a kind of thing, immortal souls are a misapprehension, eternal torment is not a kind of thing that can happen. The whole thing doesn’t look dark, it looks as silly as a Monty Python fish-slapping dance.
Agemegos
“life-long materialist”, not “lie-long materialist”.
saki
Off-topic, but your avatar is making me really impatient to see what exactly causes Ethan to make this face.
Disloyal Subject
Ditto. I was gonna say, that’s a panel to look forward to.
DarkoNeko
Oh, nice, she could get her old stuff !
DarkoNeko
Also Dinaaaa why are you wearing Becky’s cloooothes ?
Mada
Personally I like the nod to the stereotype of ending up in your lover’s clothes after a wild night 🙂
John
They were up all night holding hands and looking at pictures of dinosaurs. And occasionally smooching. On the lips.
Leorale
Smooching on the lips is 3rd base; while looking at pictures of dinosaurs, that’s a home run!
Dana
Actually, the base depends on the completeness of the fossils and how deep in the strata you find them.
Chris
Sexual euphemism detected (or manufactured).
DarkoNeko
They were up all night to get lucky
were up all night to get lucky~
were up all night to get lucky~
Disloyal Subject
Nothing against Daft Punk, but sweet everloving Sun do I hate that song. Not only is it repetetive to the point of being boring, but it gets played so often in so many places that it’s more inescapable than whichever teen popstar the internet hates this year for being too popular.
Androiddreams
but that means that they’re doing it right, everybody will be dancing we’ll be feeling it right, everybofy will be dancing-
Deanatay
While overuse can affect my personal taste for a song, I wouldn’t let it affect my sense of a song’s objective quality. Get Lucky is an amazing song, that is, sadly, overplayed.
Sensei Le Roof
It’s less repetitive than “Around the World”.
kelticat
At least it hasn’t become a commercial theme song yet.
N0083rP00F
I thought Get Lucky was the main goal to winning that card game Get Dr Lucky?
Yet Another Laura H.
Yes, but per the rules of the game, you can’t do it while anyone else is looking. So if WE are up all night to get Lucky, it kind of defeats the purpose…
Someone
Its pretty common for people in relationships to share sweaters.
Annie
But it implies that they woke up in the same room/bed this morning.
Of course, with these two it doesn’t really imply that, since they’re in a dorm, just a couple doors down from each other, and seem to never lock their doors.
But in *most* relationships it would imply spending the night together! which is funny.
Though, it is no longer funny because I just explained it.
Disloyal Subject
To the contrary, that just makes it funnier.
Mindlink
No, in MOST relationships, it would indicate that they had been in the same room together, people change sweaters during daytime as well, and pretty common in fall, when the weather suddenly changes and what you had on when you arrived is suddenly too cold. You don’t even have to be in a relationship, you just have to be friends.
heyman
I guess similar size dressing in the dark?
LeslieBean4Shizzle
… Slipshine?
Kamino Neko
Because it’s funny, like she says?
Just Me
Becky was probably going to throw out any clothes that had Anderson University on it, but ‘Someone’ thought it would be funny for Dina to wear it.
Historyman68
Oh you mean Mike? That thought hadn’t occurred to me, but it is an intriguing possibility that Mike is teaching Dina humor.
DarkoNeko
No, most probably Becky. She’s been teaching Dina how to joke for a while already.
Yet Another Laura H.
“Your mom is so massive, she requires a second fin in order to have the surface area to shed heat. The per-kilogram value on my nickel was staggering.”
Bicycle Bill
Clothes are not cheap, and as long as it still fits why not wear it out? I’ve still got my employee polo shirts from a company I left almost seven years ago. Worn under a sweater or a sweatshirt with the collar sticking out they still look a little classier than just the sweatshirt alone, and no one sees the old logo.
John
Because it’s advertising an institution that they’ve found the core values of to be intolerant and intolerable?
Yet Another Laura H.
Because you lack a fabric pen to indicate you were on the varsity muff-diving team? I have friends who went to Hillsdale AND to Pensacola “Christian” “College.” Good catharsis there.
Cephalo the Pod
And someone lent her bus money!
Dina?
Norah
She might have used some of the money her parents gave her to take Becky out to dinner.
Freemage
Given the story and names have been on the news at this point, and the school are the ones who ‘outed’ Becky to her parents, it is quite possible someone on their legal staff said, “Make sure she gets everything she wants and gets out of here, before someone suggests that the school has some sort of liability here. We might not lose a lawsuit, but we’d lose by being named in one.”
Cerberus
Could be that. More likely is that well, they aren’t invested in getting Becky to reparative therapy, just punishing her to the maximum allowable extent for “moral perfidy” with regards to her lesbianism. And well, having her run off and leave her stuff behind means they’ve had a bunch of junk that needed to be taken out of the dorms to make space and were definitely hoping someone would come grab to save them the mess of hauling it all off to the dump.
So yeah, Becky “sneaking” back to grab her stuff was doing them a favor because it’s like “oh yay, cart off this junk and save us the hassle”.
Also, this means that A) Becky can incinerate her bus clothes and send them to a merciful end and B) Becky finally, finally has access to her toothbrush again.
Dreadhawk177
Willis, this 6-minutes-late thing has to end. I need my sleep, Willis. If I don’t get my sleep, I don’t know what I’ll do.
heyman
Some of have to wake up in 7 hours.
Foxhack
5 hours here, so.
Lord Stoneheart
Maybe it’s your computer’s time that’s off? Your post was made at 12:02.
John
Nah, the server’s time is definitely a few minutes slow.
John
(I posted that comment at exactly 01:55, according to my machine’s NTP-synched clock, which should be accurate to within milliseconds.)
No Name
So if anything, the server’s clock is fast.
John
No, it’s two minutes slow. I posted the comment at 1:55; it timestamped it 1:53.
Ryan
If you were better rested, you’d know what you would do if you don’t get enough sleep.
DarkoNeko
dude it’s published at like 6AM here =_=
zzzz
Agemegos
4 PM here.
I have to stay up so late!
Disloyal Subject
Only 9P here. I need to find something else to justify my sleeping pattern.
SDGlyph
5AM here in the UK. I worry when I’m up early enough / late enough (depending whether I slept first) to catch it live…
Ana Chronistic
If you don’t get your sleep, you’ll fall asleep from exhaustion somewhere unexpected.
OR you could just go to bed, since it’s not like the comic GOES AWAY after midnight-ish EST?
Disloyal Subject