Honestly, facing the brunt of her party’s (ex-party’s, rather) bigotry might be the cold splash of reality needed to finally, *finally* understand what harm she’s done. Robin only seems capable of learning from personal experiences, not words, so unfortunately this might be her only shot at ‘getting it’.
Then maybe, slowly, eventually, she can genuinely make amends. It would take a helluva lot of story arcs for it to be even remotely realistic, and she’d have to learn a bunch of other junk along the way (just because you empathise now doesn’t mean you’re in the clear, you need to understand others have good reason to be skeptical of your change of heart, etc), and then we’ll *finally* have a Robin character that isn’t a total shitbag.
Besides, we’ve already got DoA villains like Toedad who’ve gotten their comeuppance. Schadenfreude isn’t the only option available. 😛
On a related note, of course we can all guess why they dropped sponsorship of Robin. It needed to happen, and it should have happened earlier, but it happened for *all* the wrong reasons. Reminds me of a certain FBI director…
The justification for the firing is so damn transparent a lie that I’d be worried about birds trying to fly through it. It wasn’t but a week or so ago Trump was boasting how Comey helped win him the election.
In fact, now that I think about, since these comics are scripted and drawn months in advance the release of this strip is an amazingly timely coincidence. Willis, what do you know that the rest of us don’t? Huh?
Pablo360
Honestly this was always going to happen. Comey is an idiot but he wasn’t going to not investigate Trump, and that wasn’t going to sit well with Trump. I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
Both were basically chaos in human form, but in Shortpacked the world was as nutty as Robin was, so most of her actions either didn’t have real consequences, or had consequences that were ultimately a net-gain for the characters she annoyed with them.
DoA is much more grounded in reality, and reality is less kind to wacky hijinks. You can’t be a cartoon character in the real world.
Though I guess Carla did successfully hit someone with a spring-loaded pie.
Man, in Shortpack Robin brought about literal world peace for several weeks. She could’ve murdered someone in every strip after that and, on an actuarial basis, still ended up having saved more lives than she took.
It’s probably not as bad as binge-reading a webcomic and catching up to the most recent installment, or getting into a TV show that ended 30 years ago…
I’m still confused as to *why* they haven’t solved the Trump problem. Trump was never their man, he’s hated by both sides, he’d be trivial to impeach. And then they’d have president Pence. Pence!
I honestly don’t see the downside for them; what are they waiting for?
Remmington Steele
Russian money on both McConnell and Ryan, perhaps?
Chris Phoenix
Then they’d have the Democrat problem. As in, the Democrats would (rightfully) blame them for having elected someone so horribly unsuitable.
Also, they’d lose all the die-hard Trump supporters in the midterms.
KingoHrts
Face it. Where would the die-hard Trumpies go? Whoever the Dem’s might propose would not be their choice. They would stay with the Republicans only in opposition. Which is partly how we got here anyway.
thejeff
Away. Not voting.
Or primarying whichever individual Representatives and Senators voted for impeachment or led in investigations.
Chrisashtear
Both parties were hacked by the Russians, but the GOP hasn’t had anything released. Blackmail?
One reason they might reach that conclusion would be finding blackmail material.
One party is discredited with very minor leaks and utter fabrications (like pizzagate, & the “rigged” primary) that get repeated over and over
The other party is kept in line with blackmail threats and promises that their extreme right agenda will be served.
Though sure, it’s also possible that GOP leadership is just so turned on by the idea of fucking over the poor for decades to come that they just don’t care how much treason it requires, and maybe they’re even stupid enough to think they can get away with it even with an erratic, guileless hobgoblin and his cronies running things and always saying the quiet part loud
Frankly, I feel like “they’re cowards and being blackmailed” is the more charitable explanation
thejeff
Short term thinking and a total lack of ethics. They can get a little more of their agenda passed and sticking with Trump a little bit longer is easier than biting the bullet and taking the fallout from taking Trump down now.
Every delay makes it worse, but also makes the medicine more difficult to swallow, so there’s more incentive to wait.
thejeff
A nasty, nasty fight with the huge chunk of their base that is still wild about him? Any impeachment is going to be full of infighting and scar the party for years. Pence is likely tainted by any Trump scandals they could use to bring him down and more investigation would reveal that. An unelected replacement president is going to be incredibly weak and the scandal – not to mention the backlash from Trump supporters would be devastating in the next election.
Besides they’re still getting much of what they want from Trump – Judges and he’ll sign pretty much anything Congress can manage to pass.
It may happen, but only if they get to the point where the political damage of an impeachment is less (probably much less) than the damage he’s causing just sitting there.
Kryss LaBryn
I’m not hoping for it but the next election could be the Tea Party’s opportunity to become a major player, and pick up the hard-core right wingers who voted for Trump and have since become disillusioned with how useless he’s being. A candidate who is as right-wing extremist as Trump but who actually does have some small-time political experience could do well. “See, we still want the same things you do: Muslim ban, wall, no birth control/abortions, Creationism taught in schools, etc etc; but we’ve got some political experience and know how to go about doing it! Plus our candidate is as blunt and out-spoken as Trump; but not an idiot who will embarrass us on the world stage for not knowing things like basic history and which country we just bombed. Also, he hasn’t peed on any Russian prostitutes and isn’t a puppet of a foreign power.”
The Democrats, on the other hand, could run Sanders with Obama as his VP (assuming Obama doesn’t laugh his ass off and leave if it’s offered to him), and acknowledge that there are real concerns that aren’t being addressed. They could point out things like the fact that solar power needs far more workers than coal, so lots of good, well-paying jobs could be had in things like that, with retraining for people from coal and manufacturing industries who have lost their jobs either subsidized or given priority. They could also change the corporate tax laws to stop discouraging multi-national corporations from bringing profits back into the country instead of keeping them overseas where the rates are lower.
They could also look at fully-subsidized, single-payer universal health care in other countries with the healthiest populations, like the Scandinavian ones, to see which system would best fit American numbers, And say, “Look, Obamacare wasn’t perfect. Trumpcare was worse. And we know you don’t want your taxes to go up because of course you don’t want more money to be coming out of your pocket, especially not to be paying for cancer care for smokers and stuff. So what we’ve got is a system where YOU, personally, will be covered for everything; and your household budget will not be negatively affected, because you won’t have that monthly health insurance bill to deal with. And few health insurance jobs will be lost because now they will just be dealing with extra insurance for perks like private rooms and TVs, and travel insurance and the like; and anyone who does lose a job due to this implementation of universal health care will have their retraining subsidized for working on the wind and solar farms we will be building across the country.”
IMO.
thejeff
The Tea Party will become a major player? The TP has mostly merged with and taken over the Republican Party. Trump is as much a creation of the Tea Party as anything else. They won’t be a major player in the third party sense, but they’re still driving the GOP.
Sudden Clarity Clarence
> The GOP could easily impeach Trump and put Pence in the White House. What are they waiting for?
Trump hasn’t said a single thing that wasn’t on Mark Levin’s show in the last 5 years…Trump was very much the candidate of what the GOP’s been turning into since the Moral Majority was founded.
HMH
They’d have to admit to all of the people who voted for Trump that those people were wrong to vote GOP. They don’t have a very high opinion of their base’s reliability and predictability when it comes to relying on them to think critically, or multiple steps through, being told that they were wrong.
See, for example: They elected President Donald Trump, largely out of pure spite.
are you saying that dumbing of age does not exist in our physical world
i will have u know that i am Personal Pen Pals with sal and she said, and i quote, “u tell that sassafrassin’ two-bit son of a bongo that i’m as real as he is, thank you very much.” SO I WOULD THINK THAT SETTLES IT
anyways prep for the sugar high apocalypse when robin gets out of a job next january
zoelogical
fuck i dont know your pronouns im sorry i made an assumption based on your gravatar. frick
Pablo360
Yeah gravatars are weird like that. For instance, I’m nominally male. But I don’t have the gravatar excuse because this is a custom avatar, so…
LOOK A DEMONIC DUCK OF SOME SORT
Reltzik
Yeah, but do you know the demonic duck’s pronouns?
442 thoughts on “Regard”
Ana Chronistic
well that de-escalated quickly
not sure if want =<
Schpoonman
Maybe not the way we wanted, but certainly in a way that was needed.
Streeter
Honestly, facing the brunt of her party’s (ex-party’s, rather) bigotry might be the cold splash of reality needed to finally, *finally* understand what harm she’s done. Robin only seems capable of learning from personal experiences, not words, so unfortunately this might be her only shot at ‘getting it’.
Then maybe, slowly, eventually, she can genuinely make amends. It would take a helluva lot of story arcs for it to be even remotely realistic, and she’d have to learn a bunch of other junk along the way (just because you empathise now doesn’t mean you’re in the clear, you need to understand others have good reason to be skeptical of your change of heart, etc), and then we’ll *finally* have a Robin character that isn’t a total shitbag.
Besides, we’ve already got DoA villains like Toedad who’ve gotten their comeuppance. Schadenfreude isn’t the only option available. 😛
Streeter
On a related note, of course we can all guess why they dropped sponsorship of Robin. It needed to happen, and it should have happened earlier, but it happened for *all* the wrong reasons. Reminds me of a certain FBI director…
Sephiroth144
Ex-Director…
Streeter
The justification for the firing is so damn transparent a lie that I’d be worried about birds trying to fly through it. It wasn’t but a week or so ago Trump was boasting how Comey helped win him the election.
In fact, now that I think about, since these comics are scripted and drawn months in advance the release of this strip is an amazingly timely coincidence. Willis, what do you know that the rest of us don’t? Huh?
Pablo360
Honestly this was always going to happen. Comey is an idiot but he wasn’t going to not investigate Trump, and that wasn’t going to sit well with Trump. I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
Eric Burns-White
The proof of that? How many months ago was this strip written and drawn, again?
Deanatay
There were people who foresaw it as far back as November.
PyrrhusDuAekillhus
She’s based on Palin in this incarnation, right?
… yeah, don’t hold your breath on the “capable of learning obvious lessons” front.
BBCC
Palin, Trump, sometimes Rubio or Cruz. Even Bush occasionally. Depends who an appropriate asshole for a given strip is.
thejeff
The SP version was more Palin. At least the political angle – though she had Pelosi’s seat, IIRC.
BBCC
She started off more like Palin here too. Then as time went on, the number of parody-able politicians increased.
zoelogical
at this point i figure she’s based on all the republican politicians and none of them at the same time
Ana Chronistic
CLEARLY whichever one is prone to pantlessness
and eating Cadbury Creme Egg cereal
zoelogical
frick. when’s the last time you saw abraham lincoln
AutobotDen
Ouch.
wheelpath
I don’t know how to feel Willis, like probably skewed by Shortpacked love, but I feel bad feeling marginally sorry for Robin
Doctor_Who
Both were basically chaos in human form, but in Shortpacked the world was as nutty as Robin was, so most of her actions either didn’t have real consequences, or had consequences that were ultimately a net-gain for the characters she annoyed with them.
DoA is much more grounded in reality, and reality is less kind to wacky hijinks. You can’t be a cartoon character in the real world.
Though I guess Carla did successfully hit someone with a spring-loaded pie.
Carla for congress! Seat opening up soon!
Viktoria
On the one hand, Carla is rich, educated, and charismatic. On the other hand, she’s a minority running in Indiana. She’s got no chance.
achallenger
butt on the otherhand, pie
UltraKyrie
piehand on the other butt
MatthewTheLucky
On the other butt-hand, pie!
Leorale
pie on the other pie, butt
XMS
pie butt pie butt pie
Dean
Pie pie pie butt pie.
Kamino Neko
Piehand on the butt is SP! Malaya’s favourite thing.
Doctor_Who
She tried to google it for some solo-sexytimes, but all she found were personal ads for clowns.
foamy
Man, in Shortpack Robin brought about literal world peace for several weeks. She could’ve murdered someone in every strip after that and, on an actuarial basis, still ended up having saved more lives than she took.
Tacos
Huh, well that problem solved itself.
TheAnonymousGuy
wait….this is a DoA plot line, they never end this calmly, something coming.
podian
Next up: the conservatives switch their support from Robin to Ross. Or Ryan.
Doctor_Who
This requires viewing more Steven Universe. That’ll fix it.
Halpful
That’s my plan. 🙂 (but I’m halfway through season 3, and starting to worry about what happens when I run out…)
Rukduk
Withdrawal. Hiatus hell.
Needfuldoer
It’s probably not as bad as binge-reading a webcomic and catching up to the most recent installment, or getting into a TV show that ended 30 years ago…
Joe Covenant
Or watching Firefly , and then not being able to find season 2 ANYWHERE!
Clif
What? You mean they sent me to the wrong reality? I want my Khronars back.
Pablo360
Hop on over to Star vs when you’re done.
Yarrr
You can come and cry in a corner like the rest of us.
Mollyscribbles
Word of advice: Don’t finish the end of season 4 until season 5 comes out. There’s a bit of a cliffhanger.
Pablo360
Actually, if I’m doing the math right, there are two more episodes left in Season 4.
BBCC
Leaks.
Pablo360
No, I meant that there are 26 episodes a season.
The leaks were… incidental.
Deanatay
It’s bad. I binged the first four seasons a couple weeks ago, and I’m currently jonesing for more.
Reltzik
……..
……
… I am now placed in the unenviable position of acknowledging that the Republican Party can, in fact, solve problems.
DAMN YOU WILLIS!
Danni
the republican party still hasnt solved the trump problem
Reltzik
Well, at least ONE problem.
BP
Baby steps.
begbert2
I’m still confused as to *why* they haven’t solved the Trump problem. Trump was never their man, he’s hated by both sides, he’d be trivial to impeach. And then they’d have president Pence. Pence!
I honestly don’t see the downside for them; what are they waiting for?
Remmington Steele
Russian money on both McConnell and Ryan, perhaps?
Chris Phoenix
Then they’d have the Democrat problem. As in, the Democrats would (rightfully) blame them for having elected someone so horribly unsuitable.
Also, they’d lose all the die-hard Trump supporters in the midterms.
KingoHrts
Face it. Where would the die-hard Trumpies go? Whoever the Dem’s might propose would not be their choice. They would stay with the Republicans only in opposition. Which is partly how we got here anyway.
thejeff
Away. Not voting.
Or primarying whichever individual Representatives and Senators voted for impeachment or led in investigations.
Chrisashtear
Both parties were hacked by the Russians, but the GOP hasn’t had anything released. Blackmail?
Fart Captor
The alternative is that they hacked the GOP and didn’t find anything embarrassing, so yes. Blackmail
Deanatay
Or, the Russians realized they had more to gain by trashing the Democrat’s reputation, and leaving the Republican’s unstained.
Fart Captor
One reason they might reach that conclusion would be finding blackmail material.
One party is discredited with very minor leaks and utter fabrications (like pizzagate, & the “rigged” primary) that get repeated over and over
The other party is kept in line with blackmail threats and promises that their extreme right agenda will be served.
Though sure, it’s also possible that GOP leadership is just so turned on by the idea of fucking over the poor for decades to come that they just don’t care how much treason it requires, and maybe they’re even stupid enough to think they can get away with it even with an erratic, guileless hobgoblin and his cronies running things and always saying the quiet part loud
Fart Captor
Frankly, I feel like “they’re cowards and being blackmailed” is the more charitable explanation
thejeff
Short term thinking and a total lack of ethics. They can get a little more of their agenda passed and sticking with Trump a little bit longer is easier than biting the bullet and taking the fallout from taking Trump down now.
Every delay makes it worse, but also makes the medicine more difficult to swallow, so there’s more incentive to wait.
thejeff
A nasty, nasty fight with the huge chunk of their base that is still wild about him? Any impeachment is going to be full of infighting and scar the party for years. Pence is likely tainted by any Trump scandals they could use to bring him down and more investigation would reveal that. An unelected replacement president is going to be incredibly weak and the scandal – not to mention the backlash from Trump supporters would be devastating in the next election.
Besides they’re still getting much of what they want from Trump – Judges and he’ll sign pretty much anything Congress can manage to pass.
It may happen, but only if they get to the point where the political damage of an impeachment is less (probably much less) than the damage he’s causing just sitting there.
Kryss LaBryn
I’m not hoping for it but the next election could be the Tea Party’s opportunity to become a major player, and pick up the hard-core right wingers who voted for Trump and have since become disillusioned with how useless he’s being. A candidate who is as right-wing extremist as Trump but who actually does have some small-time political experience could do well. “See, we still want the same things you do: Muslim ban, wall, no birth control/abortions, Creationism taught in schools, etc etc; but we’ve got some political experience and know how to go about doing it! Plus our candidate is as blunt and out-spoken as Trump; but not an idiot who will embarrass us on the world stage for not knowing things like basic history and which country we just bombed. Also, he hasn’t peed on any Russian prostitutes and isn’t a puppet of a foreign power.”
The Democrats, on the other hand, could run Sanders with Obama as his VP (assuming Obama doesn’t laugh his ass off and leave if it’s offered to him), and acknowledge that there are real concerns that aren’t being addressed. They could point out things like the fact that solar power needs far more workers than coal, so lots of good, well-paying jobs could be had in things like that, with retraining for people from coal and manufacturing industries who have lost their jobs either subsidized or given priority. They could also change the corporate tax laws to stop discouraging multi-national corporations from bringing profits back into the country instead of keeping them overseas where the rates are lower.
They could also look at fully-subsidized, single-payer universal health care in other countries with the healthiest populations, like the Scandinavian ones, to see which system would best fit American numbers, And say, “Look, Obamacare wasn’t perfect. Trumpcare was worse. And we know you don’t want your taxes to go up because of course you don’t want more money to be coming out of your pocket, especially not to be paying for cancer care for smokers and stuff. So what we’ve got is a system where YOU, personally, will be covered for everything; and your household budget will not be negatively affected, because you won’t have that monthly health insurance bill to deal with. And few health insurance jobs will be lost because now they will just be dealing with extra insurance for perks like private rooms and TVs, and travel insurance and the like; and anyone who does lose a job due to this implementation of universal health care will have their retraining subsidized for working on the wind and solar farms we will be building across the country.”
IMO.
thejeff
The Tea Party will become a major player? The TP has mostly merged with and taken over the Republican Party. Trump is as much a creation of the Tea Party as anything else. They won’t be a major player in the third party sense, but they’re still driving the GOP.
Sudden Clarity Clarence
> The GOP could easily impeach Trump and put Pence in the White House. What are they waiting for?
Permission from Putin.
buckybone
Trump hasn’t said a single thing that wasn’t on Mark Levin’s show in the last 5 years…Trump was very much the candidate of what the GOP’s been turning into since the Moral Majority was founded.
HMH
They’d have to admit to all of the people who voted for Trump that those people were wrong to vote GOP. They don’t have a very high opinion of their base’s reliability and predictability when it comes to relying on them to think critically, or multiple steps through, being told that they were wrong.
See, for example: They elected President Donald Trump, largely out of pure spite.
zoelogical
it solved a problem for them by unleashing robin on the world
Belegcam
*In a fictional universe.
Reltzik
…. phew. Thanks for that reminder. Now I can put away this bottle of bourbon.
zoelogical
are you saying that dumbing of age does not exist in our physical world
i will have u know that i am Personal Pen Pals with sal and she said, and i quote, “u tell that sassafrassin’ two-bit son of a bongo that i’m as real as he is, thank you very much.” SO I WOULD THINK THAT SETTLES IT
anyways prep for the sugar high apocalypse when robin gets out of a job next january
zoelogical
fuck i dont know your pronouns im sorry i made an assumption based on your gravatar. frick
Pablo360
Yeah gravatars are weird like that. For instance, I’m nominally male. But I don’t have the gravatar excuse because this is a custom avatar, so…
LOOK A DEMONIC DUCK OF SOME SORT
Reltzik
Yeah, but do you know the demonic duck’s pronouns?
Pablo360
…I actually don’t know if that’s been established in canon
I do know their sexual preference (human).