Hey no way am I giving you my friends – they are retrospect, a depleting resource. Heck, I even lost the one enemy I had – if that is the proper term for a secret and incredibly one-sided rivalry I had with this one classmate in college who seemed to just be better than me in everyway at everything I cared about. God, they were so nice and awesome, and I irrationally hated them so much for it.
I mean basically thanksgiving but more friend oriented instead of family oriented.
Ya know, as an alternative to people who want the joy of Thanksgiving without having to put up with racist uncles and toxic shit
Jeff K!
People do that, I just held one specifically for people in my family’s circles that are queer or strong allies.
There’s a few of my kids’ friends that aren’t out to their parents, and I wanted to make sure they had someplace to be open about themselves.
We had about twenty guests, total. It was great!
Mark
Go ahead and do that. One of the things that Thanksgiving is for is socializing with the people you’re thankful for.
nightshade
there’s a Leanne Rhimes song about that that’s funny as heck
where she lists this nice kind almost perfect girl and then goes and I hate her
Friendsgiving is already a big thing in, um, a certain subculture with a very high rate of being disowned by family (though others are more than welcome to celebrate!) and is beginning to spread and be its own thing. At least it is if the number of mentions of Friendsgiving I’ve seen on BSky this week is any indication.
Leorale
Yep. Went to one yesterday for digital nomads. We brought potatoes and a baby.
Leorale
Huh, I thought I was replying to a comment that said Friendsgiving has already joined the mainstream.
Friends for all, even if your family is basically fine and dandy. Pal-entine’s Day, but with more cooking.
It’s funny, United States is the only country that has the word “America” in its name, there’s no other place the adjective American applies to unless it’s specifically both the whole North and South American continents, yet everyone objects.
Yumi
In many places, including places in Latin America, North and South America are thought of as one continent, so the word American is applied to mean something else quite easily.
yeah pretty much everywhere else USA folk are known as “staters”, we’re just about the only country in the Americas who tends to use “Americans” as our autonym XD
Adept
Or ”jenkit” over here, as the plural for Americans (US). It’s neutral in tone here, I’d say.
Aura
We just call people from the usa americans (or the more derogatory ‘yanks’ or ‘seppos’) here, have honestly never heard the word ‘stater’ before
Axel
I know the controversy you’re talking about, but where I live we’ve said ‘the US’ for decades, I guess because it’s shorter? And because America sounds either weirdly patriotic (ie ‘god bless America’) or very dated, like “I’m going to go and make my way in the new world, America!”
We do still use ‘american’ though
Endplanets
@Axel
And Damn Right you should.
When we talk about Octoberfest we talk about ‘Germany’ not ‘Deutschland’ or “Alemania”.
And for God its “Jesus” not “Yehoshua”.
When speaking we speak… in the language we are speaking.
English speakers use 7 continents. Spanish speakers 6 (they combing NA and SA).
So this is the one time we Americans can say that these foreigners need to be less egocentric and considerate of other cultures and call us Americans.
.
Bonus: And you would think when speaking in Spanish that you would just call yourself “Estadunidense” but we bloody can’t because “The United States of Mexico” stole our name.
Unrelated: “Union of South American Nations” Boom.
Endplanets
@Amelie
Trick statement: the USA wasn’t a country with America in the name because it wasn’t a true country at the time. Much like the European Union or Union of South American Nations, it was just a weak Confederation.
That changed later obviously.
I don’t know why conservatives have a problem with this. My family has been doing Friendsgiving since 1984. The first year my brother went to college he had friends for whom home was too far away for a day trip or even a long weekend. We started a tradition of gathering strays for Thanksgiving dinner. Forty years later my family is still doing it. It’s always seemed to me to be the very specific spirit of the season.
Mark
They run out of things to be outraged about unless they keep searching for new ones.
MutantSentry
@Bryon Orpheus No see, if you do found family/friends then everything will be far to pleasent and amicable. Thanksgiving is supposed to be tense and fraught with mandatory intergenerational angst. If you are having fun you are doing it wrong. That’s why I celebrate Turkey Day- Cheesy movies with Joel, Mike, Jonah, Emily and the bots.
Yumi
I don’t even think of that as “Friendsgiving”– if it’s like a family & friends & maybe an older neighbor, that’s still just Thanksgiving to me. Friendsgiving I think of as where the majority of the relationships and the basis for gathering is friendship.
My family is also very open with inviting people. When I heard the other day that someone I know was going to be alone for Thanksgiving, it was honestly hard to stop myself from inviting them– even though this is not someone I would want there.
Needfuldoer
Choosing to do Friendsgiving instead of spending Thanksgiving listening to them takes away their captive audience.
You don’t seem to be the only one in the comments misinterpreting. Here, I’ll provide a subtext-free translation, starting from panel 4:
Joe: I saved Joyce’s old drawings because I like her a lot.
Jocelyne: This information reveals that you like Joyce’s so much that I, Joyce’s sister, can embarrass you about it.
Joe: I am embarrassed by exposing this vulnerability but still like Joyce a lot.
The way he looked aside and grimaced and paused before saying “value” — I didn’t really understand what he meant by that.
Thanks so much for helping me to understand.
Nobby Nobbs
I’d say the grimace is because he knows going against Joyce’s stated wishes is wrong, but has decided quietly stashing the drawings to give future-her a chance to take back the decision to get rid of them all is less wrong. It’s a loving action, and one that’s just paid off in letting him do something nice for Jocelyn, but it’s not without moral dissonance for a young man who really cares about respecting Joyce’s autonomy.
Laura
Oh, yes, that makes sense, Nobby Nobbs! Thank you for that deeper nuance!
Lee
Ooh, also a good take yeah
Lee
I think he glanced aside because he’s not used to showing prolonged romantic affection for people, and he’s just met Jocelyne, so he’s a little embarrassed to admit that he cares enough for Joyce to have saved what at the time he thought were her childhood drawings. “The art was valuable to me” was likely him trying to find a way to say it without feeling bashful.
Laura
Oh, …see, that makes SO much more sense! Thank you, Lee!
*Whew!* I am NOT the best judge of facial expressions! 8-|
153 thoughts on “Ask about”
Ana Chronistic
happy (american) spanksgiving
NGPZ
* USA spanksgiving
hell how about we invent a new holiday called friendsgiving?
let’s do counter-culture for reals!!!! B)
True Survivor
Hey no way am I giving you my friends – they are retrospect, a depleting resource. Heck, I even lost the one enemy I had – if that is the proper term for a secret and incredibly one-sided rivalry I had with this one classmate in college who seemed to just be better than me in everyway at everything I cared about. God, they were so nice and awesome, and I irrationally hated them so much for it.
NGPZ
I mean basically thanksgiving but more friend oriented instead of family oriented.
Ya know, as an alternative to people who want the joy of Thanksgiving without having to put up with racist uncles and toxic shit
Jeff K!
People do that, I just held one specifically for people in my family’s circles that are queer or strong allies.
There’s a few of my kids’ friends that aren’t out to their parents, and I wanted to make sure they had someplace to be open about themselves.
We had about twenty guests, total. It was great!
Mark
Go ahead and do that. One of the things that Thanksgiving is for is socializing with the people you’re thankful for.
nightshade
there’s a Leanne Rhimes song about that that’s funny as heck
where she lists this nice kind almost perfect girl and then goes and I hate her
InscrutableJane
Friendsgiving is already a big thing in, um, a certain subculture with a very high rate of being disowned by family (though others are more than welcome to celebrate!) and is beginning to spread and be its own thing. At least it is if the number of mentions of Friendsgiving I’ve seen on BSky this week is any indication.
Leorale
Yep. Went to one yesterday for digital nomads. We brought potatoes and a baby.
Leorale
Huh, I thought I was replying to a comment that said Friendsgiving has already joined the mainstream.
Friends for all, even if your family is basically fine and dandy. Pal-entine’s Day, but with more cooking.
Opus the Poet
How long do you cook your baby? j/k
Leorale
Slowly warmed for about nine months 🙂
Laura
Little bun in the oven.
That other Sierra
Sous vide, you say?
StClair
Ordering from the kids menu.
Jamie
Just to seal in how mainstream it already is,
Friendsgiving has a Wikipedia article.
Amelie Wikström
It’s funny, United States is the only country that has the word “America” in its name, there’s no other place the adjective American applies to unless it’s specifically both the whole North and South American continents, yet everyone objects.
Yumi
In many places, including places in Latin America, North and South America are thought of as one continent, so the word American is applied to mean something else quite easily.
NGPZ
yeah pretty much everywhere else USA folk are known as “staters”, we’re just about the only country in the Americas who tends to use “Americans” as our autonym XD
Adept
Or ”jenkit” over here, as the plural for Americans (US). It’s neutral in tone here, I’d say.
Aura
We just call people from the usa americans (or the more derogatory ‘yanks’ or ‘seppos’) here, have honestly never heard the word ‘stater’ before
Axel
I know the controversy you’re talking about, but where I live we’ve said ‘the US’ for decades, I guess because it’s shorter? And because America sounds either weirdly patriotic (ie ‘god bless America’) or very dated, like “I’m going to go and make my way in the new world, America!”
We do still use ‘american’ though
Endplanets
@Axel
And Damn Right you should.
When we talk about Octoberfest we talk about ‘Germany’ not ‘Deutschland’ or “Alemania”.
And for God its “Jesus” not “Yehoshua”.
When speaking we speak… in the language we are speaking.
English speakers use 7 continents. Spanish speakers 6 (they combing NA and SA).
So this is the one time we Americans can say that these foreigners need to be less egocentric and considerate of other cultures and call us Americans.
.
Bonus: And you would think when speaking in Spanish that you would just call yourself “Estadunidense” but we bloody can’t because “The United States of Mexico” stole our name.
Unrelated: “Union of South American Nations” Boom.
Endplanets
@Amelie
Trick statement: the USA wasn’t a country with America in the name because it wasn’t a true country at the time. Much like the European Union or Union of South American Nations, it was just a weak Confederation.
That changed later obviously.
a/snow/mous/e
Spanksgiving sounds interesting… imeanwut
cain
There’s a drabble collection on Ao3 called Wanksgiving. https://archiveofourown.org/collections/2024_11_Wanksgiving_2024/
Byron Orpheus
I don’t know why conservatives have a problem with this. My family has been doing Friendsgiving since 1984. The first year my brother went to college he had friends for whom home was too far away for a day trip or even a long weekend. We started a tradition of gathering strays for Thanksgiving dinner. Forty years later my family is still doing it. It’s always seemed to me to be the very specific spirit of the season.
Mark
They run out of things to be outraged about unless they keep searching for new ones.
MutantSentry
@Bryon Orpheus No see, if you do found family/friends then everything will be far to pleasent and amicable. Thanksgiving is supposed to be tense and fraught with mandatory intergenerational angst. If you are having fun you are doing it wrong. That’s why I celebrate Turkey Day- Cheesy movies with Joel, Mike, Jonah, Emily and the bots.
Yumi
I don’t even think of that as “Friendsgiving”– if it’s like a family & friends & maybe an older neighbor, that’s still just Thanksgiving to me. Friendsgiving I think of as where the majority of the relationships and the basis for gathering is friendship.
My family is also very open with inviting people. When I heard the other day that someone I know was going to be alone for Thanksgiving, it was honestly hard to stop myself from inviting them– even though this is not someone I would want there.
Needfuldoer
Choosing to do Friendsgiving instead of spending Thanksgiving listening to them takes away their captive audience.
NGPZ
???
yeah, the less opportunity bigot relatives have to fuel their superiority complex the better
Dday
Spanksgiving sounds like a pretty kinky version of Thanksgiving where someone gets tied up like a turkey.
David M Willis
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Dday
Nice! Took me a minute to realize that his cape is the tablecloth.
Amós Batista
Hello, Carol…
ValdVin
Wait, our Canadian friends missed Spanksgiving in mid-October and I missed it?
ValdVin
(our Canadian friends had Spanksgiving…)
Needfuldoer
They get their own a month earlier than ours, but we started our tradition before they started theirs.
Michael Steamweed
And a Happy (American) Spanksgiving to you as well!
CardinalFan
Happy Slapsgiving 2: Revenge of the Slap! The timer has begun. Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn.
MutantSentry
I celebrate Turkey Day—The Anniversary of the first episode of MST3k, something we can all be thankful for
Sirksome
This is how Joe and Jocelyne hook up.
Davus
Nooooo!!
(I think this is a joke. but still. no no no.)
ian livs
Awwww
APW
Came here to say this
Mel
Thirded
Dev
Fourth’d
Theluxland
Honestly, Joyce is pretty much one of the best thing that happened to Joe. i kind of liked his character before but now he’s just *chef’s kiss*
Mel
Oh damn he IS down bad, he’s being emotionally honest to her older sister
Opus the Poet
+1! Honesty from Joe is like having LN2 poured over your head, brisk!
DailyBrad
Super cute, though now I am just picturing a very confused Danny and/or Sal finding that.
Laura
I’m not sure how to interpret panels 4 and 5.
I hope I’m misinterpreting.
Doopyboop
What’s the interpretation you’re getting from it? No judgement, just genuinely curious.
Laura
Just something triggering. Sorry, I’ve been seeing triggers a lot in the comic recently. It’s just a little too close to the nerve these days.
Laura
Sorry, sorry — Joe’s words are just confusing to me.
Nevermind.
Doopyboop
I understand! Sorry that that has happened and I hope you will have a better night going forward!
Laura
Thank you, Doopyboop!
Doopyboop
You’re welcome!
Raven
How are you interpreting it?
Mel
Seems like pretty standard ribbing to me? She has a lot of brothers after all
Mel
Assuming you mean panels 5 and 6, since 4 and 5 don’t really have anything that seems that misinterpretible
Clif
You are. Most of what he stashed is Joyce’s art. Only a small bit was Joycelyn’s.
Thing2
I was confused, but in my case it’s because I didn’t know what down bad meant. So I came to read the comments, to see what it did mean.
Dr. Sharks
You don’t seem to be the only one in the comments misinterpreting. Here, I’ll provide a subtext-free translation, starting from panel 4:
Joe: I saved Joyce’s old drawings because I like her a lot.
Jocelyne: This information reveals that you like Joyce’s so much that I, Joyce’s sister, can embarrass you about it.
Joe: I am embarrassed by exposing this vulnerability but still like Joyce a lot.
Laura
Thank you, Dr. Sharks! That helps a lot!
The way he looked aside and grimaced and paused before saying “value” — I didn’t really understand what he meant by that.
Thanks so much for helping me to understand.
Nobby Nobbs
I’d say the grimace is because he knows going against Joyce’s stated wishes is wrong, but has decided quietly stashing the drawings to give future-her a chance to take back the decision to get rid of them all is less wrong. It’s a loving action, and one that’s just paid off in letting him do something nice for Jocelyn, but it’s not without moral dissonance for a young man who really cares about respecting Joyce’s autonomy.
Laura
Oh, yes, that makes sense, Nobby Nobbs! Thank you for that deeper nuance!
Lee
Ooh, also a good take yeah
Lee
I think he glanced aside because he’s not used to showing prolonged romantic affection for people, and he’s just met Jocelyne, so he’s a little embarrassed to admit that he cares enough for Joyce to have saved what at the time he thought were her childhood drawings. “The art was valuable to me” was likely him trying to find a way to say it without feeling bashful.
Laura
Oh, …see, that makes SO much more sense! Thank you, Lee!
*Whew!* I am NOT the best judge of facial expressions! 8-|
Christopher
This is much clearer. Thank you.
Needfuldoer
“You’ve really fallen for her, haven’t you?”
“Nnnooooo…..yes.”
Rose by Any other Name