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Tipping point
Posted on August 17, 2014 by David M Willis

178 thoughts on “Tipping point”

  1. An Average Loser

    Pfft, Other Guys.

    1. Sageress

      Marky Mark was so good in that flick

      1. Yet_One_More_Idiot

        Yeah, other guys totally blow.

        1. TrueVCU

          And also suck.

          Sometimes at the same time!

        2. L33tmaster

          Man fuck those other guys….. no wait

        3. Rodrigo

          Fuck them all! They a bunch of dicks and assholes!

      2. LittleMountain

        Marky Mark…and the funky bunch? I’ve heard that name being tossed around before. Are they dadaists?

  2. Jen Aside

    “…other guys’ DICKS”

    1. Plasma Mongoose

      and their firm buttocks… 😀

      1. EvergreenFir

        their quivering buttocks… mmm

        1. Tenn

          And their chiseled pecs… *licks lips*

    2. An Average Loser

      What’re you getting at?

    3. Jen Aside

      (I would like to meet these other guys who suck so hard, btw)

      ((for… RESEARCH))

      1. -Sentinel-

        Journalism?

        1. Jen Aside

          and roller derby

        2. Plasma Mongoose

          You would do anything to score yourself some column inches wouldn’t you? 😛

        3. AgentKeen

          Full page spreads, with color pictures.

        4. Plasma Mongoose

          and those press gangs… 😀

        5. AgentKeen

          The real reason Daisy wants spreads of Amazi-girl with a boob window is to compete with the school’s underground yaoi newspaper.

        6. Plasma Mongoose

          What’s it called? Press The Meat? :d

        7. Jen Aside

          YES

        8. -Sentinel-

          Haha, brilliant, Plasma.

  3. JebJeb

    Well that’s technically true.

  4. Mr. Random

    Not what he meant…
    Also, good to see Danny’s back in the role of obliviousness.

    1. An Average Loser

      This is Danny here, his IQ fluctuates with every comic.

    2. LiamAldam

      Give him some credit, it’s pretty subtle.

      1. Mr. Random

        Ethan’s face in the last panel.
        It doesn’t really lend itself to many other interpretations.

        1. Yotomoe

          Yes actually. Yeah it does. If you had NO prior knowledge that Ethan was gay. None at ALL. Then that just…wouldn’t be your first conclusion. I mean it’d be 1 of them, don’t get me wrong.

        2. Mr. Random

          Not many other conclusions, but it would be among one of the conclusions you could draw.
          One of the others would be an awkward encounter with a separate boyfriend, or possibly other friends taking up more of her time after that event.
          Or.
          Catching her in a random orgy.
          That’d kinda freak someone out enough to leave for a bit.

        3. Luxlucis

          What? No, for most people it wouldn’t be even one of the possible conclusions you could get because being gay is just not the norm. The first thing I would think when hearing that would be boyfriends who took her time or maybe other male friends (but principally boyfriends) and I’m gay, I’m pretty sure a straight guy wouldn’t even think about Ethan being not straight and able to date Amber.
          I know everyone likes to make Danny into a super-oblivious, kind of stupid dude but come on.

        4. T Campbell

          Yeah, this is actually a surprisingly graceful deflection from Ethan. For that matter, Danny could hardly be expected to piece together Amber’s secret identity the first time he met her out of costume. The fun there was watching Amber’s secret get progressive more and more and more and more and more obvious, until dawn FINALLY broke over Danny. I’m not saying the pattern will repeat itself here, but if it does, I won’t mind.

        5. ninja_jesus

          I don’t really think you could call it obvious from Danny’s perspective, or anyone else’s in this comic. Out of the whole cast, the only ones who have ever actively discovered Amber’s secret identity are Dorothy (after doing her fair share of seeking and finding Amber’s costume) and Dina (who probably saw her change into the suit dozens of times, being her roommate and all). No one else found out. Not a one. Obvious for us, with the prior knowledge that Amber was Amazi-Girl and actively watching her slip up? Definitely. Obvious for everyone in the comic? No, absolutely not.

        6. pumacatrun2

          Replying to you because it won’t let me reply to ninja, but it’s confirmed Danny and Ethan know.

          http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/nightclass/

        7. ninja_jesus

          Yes, I know that. He was referring to everything building up to Danny finding out that Amber was Amazi-Girl.

        8. Gigafreak

          Amber repeatedly describes Amazi-Girl using exactly the same words and phrasing that Amazi-Girl used to describe herself, Amazi-Girl accepted snacks from Danny (suggested by Amber), and Amber even always knows exactly what Amazi-Girl thinks of him at all times. Amber’s/Amazi-Girl’s hints grew increasingly blatant, probably intentionally, and they all still flew a few miles over Danny’s head.

        9. Lanval

          In Danny’s defence; If I were to be dating a mild mannered MMO player, it would take a /lot/ for me to assume that my SO went out at night and beat people up while dressed as a superhero. Even if I picked up on hints, my instinct would be “Nope. No. That’s insane. I am not even going there.” Especially if I was only dating for a little bit and a question like that could make me look bad/wierd or even possibly be taken the wrong way. We look at a cast of maybe 30-50 characters, but he is in a school of thousands and so odds of a look-a-likes are fairly high especially since Dorothy seems to ressemble Amber; she might have a “common face” [I know I looked like someone in my university to the point we would be pulled aside by eachother’s friends once in a while].

        10. That Damn Rat

          The flaw in your logic (well one of them anyway) is that Danny isn’t ACTUALLY looking at Ethan’s face, they’re walking side by side.

        11. Ivan

          What if made the same facial poe but was doing the Goatse Stretch?

          If you had no prior knowledge, then what?

        12. Ivan

          damned keyboard! What if He made the same facial poSe,

        13. neeks

          Speaking of “no prior knowledge” and “goatse”, i’ve had a lot of fun explaining that site to my male coworkers who weren’t around on the net when that was anything but a wiki entry. (I’m kind of a jerk like that sometimes, but if people want to think “caffeinatedly cheerful attractive female” is all there is to me, that is their doom, not mine.)

        14. Plasma Mongoose

          Even if I had no prior knowledge about Ethan’s leanings, I would assume he was gay just cos it’s a Willis comic.

        15. Prior Semblance

          Especially considering he is currently dating a girl. You might guess he is bisexual but the wording doesn’t really imply that very well.

  5. Thanks, I'll Have Another!

    Pretty ironic that Amber’s dad wanted her to take self-defense classes.

    1. T Campbell

      Yeah, that particular irony is worth relishing, isn’t it

    2. Jen Aside

      Unless “HE wanted (to take) self-defense classes” means he was just prescient?

    3. Plasma Mongoose

      At least we know how Amber learnt to be so good at fighting, the biggest surprise is that they taught her to fight well since McDojos tend to be somewhat subpar with it comes to martial arts training.

      1. Jen Aside

        Yeah, they hold katanas like baseball bats

        1. Plasma Mongoose

          I know… you’re supposed to hold it like a fishing rod.

        2. Nono

          Let’s go! Trismegistus!

      2. MichaelHaneline

        Maybe her dad lucked out and found one of the good ones?

    4. Yotomoe

      If she’s going to be my minion, by god she’s gonna learn to master the dark arts.

      1. tinfoil theory

        Very Large Scale Integration design? That would explain how she ended up in CS.

    5. newllend

      To bad every time he’s going laugh about it his sides are just going to hurt.

    6. Bryanp

      Hey dad, how about therapy AND she learns to defend herself. It might save you both some bruises down the road.

  6. GoogerGeiger

    Men, am I right? *nudge*

    1. Yotomoe

      That’s why I’m into the ladies!

  7. Emperor Kiva

    Danny, if you only knew

    1. newllend

      He’ll probably find out in the most awkward way possible

      1. tinfoil theory

        Ethan, can I borrow your knife? The one you seem to keep in your pocket all the time for some reason?

      2. That Damn Rat

        If Danny had decent power of recall he’d already know, one of the first things Amber said to him was she’d had a boyfriend turn out gay on her.

        1. begbert2

          And Ethan just implied that Amber had had several boyfriends, so there’s no reason Danny would assume that Ethan was the gay one.

        2. Gigafreak

          Amber implied that she had multiple gay boyfriends as well.

        3. Prior Semblance

          Also you wouldn’t expect a gay ex-boyfriend to still be dating girls.

  8. Sageress

    You have no idea, alt text, no idea.

  9. Spack

    Damn you Bob Otherguys!

  10. MrSirk

    Damn you other guys, being all attractive and shit!

    1. newllend

      Like Joyce’s brother, no really I waiting for that to come back and blow up in his face.

      1. remember?

        She’s a she, if my memory serves me right.

        1. newllend

          Keep forgetting the one detail.

        2. MrSirk

          Still, the attractiveness is real.

      2. airyu

        don’t you mean Joyce’s sister?

  11. Ben

    Oh danny, you have no idea… If you could read the alt-txt then maybe you would, but… It’s you so… not likely.

    1. neeks

      Nah, it’s still subtle without context. Delightfully so. I applaud you yet again, Mr. Willis.

      This icon makes me feel like a bond villain when I say that.

  12. Luzahn

    Now kiss.

  13. Plasma Mongoose

    The main problem with Ethan and Amber’s relationship was that they both wanted the same thing… a nice big strapping dude.

    1. Nono

      A strapping, stripping dude.

      1. Deanatay

        So, they both want Jacob?

    2. Vic

      sounds like something mike would say in a gray area between drunk and sober
      like he trys to start a helpful therapothic sentence and then the soberness kicks in

      1. Yotomoe

        Mike doesn’t need to be buzzed for that. He’d say it because everything he says is helpful therapothic when you stop and think about it.

        1. begbert2

          When I stop and think about it it still seems like he just says things because he wants to make people feel bad. He just doesn’t kill the people after, so they sometimes recover and grow afterwards. And sometimes not.

  14. Stephen Bierce

    *plays The Beatles’ “Some Other Guy” on the Muzak*

    1. Stephen Bierce

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JgcwzhxTQg

  15. Nono

    What’s this third panel and head-on view nonsense

    1. Jackson

      DanCam activated

  16. Paul

    funniest. hovertext. ever.

    1. saltchocolate

      I was going to go with: best. alt-text. ever. But we’re on the same wavelength, regardless. Willis rules. All hail (or damn) the Willis.

  17. Nena

    Heh. I wonder if Ethan would end up fancying Danny. That would fuck with Amber’s head.

    1. Jen Aside

      Danny might make a good bottom, who knows

      1. Yotomoe

        Danny’s Life’s Bottom.

      2. Disloyal Subject

        The Shadow knows.

        1. AgentKeen

          It’s not the darkness in your soul he knows about.

        2. Ivan

          Only The Goatse knows!

    2. tinfoil theory

      Do you need a coxwain? For the ship, I mean.

  18. Jason

    OK, so how much you wanna bet that Ethan DIDN’T mention that this girl who took him hostage is now living in the same dorm as them???

    1. Sam

      I would bet a Jacob. And in this universe so far, he is pretty awesome.

    2. Vic

      do you think he knows he probly end up following danny to her and she opens the door when they say good bye´s but ethan sees her and stops mid sentence and just stand there open mouthed and then danny feels bed crawls under a rock and is never seen again in the comic

    3. Plasma Mongoose

      Have Ethan and Sal interacted in any way since the event?

      1. Catullus

        I don’t believe so.

      2. Greenygal

        They’ve been in a couple of strips together, but they haven’t interacted in any way and clearly haven’t recognized each other, which is unsurprising given how different they both look. (Though Ethan might get it if he saw her again, now that he’s been cued to look for her.)

        1. Plasma Mongoose

          Ah! Thanks!

        2. neeks

          That said, if Ethan were going to recognize Sal, I feel like he would have experienced deja vu upon meeting Walky. Although maybe it would take a scowl for that. Plus their previous encounter made a WAY bigger impression on Amber than it did him, so who knows?

        3. darkgloomie

          Amber did tell Ethan that “she’s here”, referring to Sal.

          But given the state of Amber’s mind, I wouldn’t begrudge Ethan for forgetting that part.

    4. John

      “Hey, my hostage-taker grew up cute!”

      Joyce: “DIDN’T SHE?”

      Ethan: “…are we eachother’s beards?”

  19. Khaner

    I always imagined Ethan sucking other guys so hard.
    Don’t worry, I do too.

  20. Sam

    Bad other guys, stop distracting Ethan.

  21. Idon'tcarenomore

    I don’t think Danny is being oblivious about anything, nor do I think Ethan has the hots for him. Danny’s just not Ethans kid of guy.

    They sound like two guys who may even be friends, who both care about Amber (in their own way) and want what’s best for her.

    I like this strip.

    1. Just Me

      It’s okay for Danny not to know Ethan’s preferences just yet. It’s not like Ethan is wearing a big sign advertising it.

      Ethan and Danny could become friends, assuming Danny doesn’t have issues with Ethan’s sexuality.

      1. Lanval

        Do you think Danny would be Homophobic? I feel like Joyce fills the role of the Conservative foil and having several major characters feel uncomfortable about alternative sexualities in a strip which is pretty diverse would bog things down and make it more complicated.

    2. Deanatay

      I think they have become friends. They’ve bonded over similar interests and a shared secret. It’s a purely platonic friendship, which is something they both desperately need right now. They geek out over comic books and toys, occasionally discuss AmbiGirl’s issues, and most importantly, relax. Considering that these two are probably the biggest stress-monkeys in DoA (except maybe Joyce), that last one is really important.

  22. Yotomoe

    I decided instead of helping her, it’d be WAY easier for me to hurt her. And so I just went with that. You will get no sympathy from me, Ethan. No Sympathy.

    1. begbert2

      I’m not sure sexuality is a choice, and if it’s not his choice, it’s not his fault.

      However feel free to continue to give him no sympathy for the Joyce thing though.

      1. Yotomoe

        That’s what I’m refering to. The Joyce thing IS hurting her. I def don’t think Sexuality is not a choice.

        1. kelticat

          You might want to rephrase that last sentence. Because right now, I’m reading it as you think Sexuality is a choice, and I don’t think that is what you mean.

          Just saying.

  23. Greenygal

    Huh. So when Ethan came out, and Amber tried to help him through it, she maybe felt like it was her turn to be there for him?

    1. Yotomoe

      Good thing he decided to back out on that and date a girl and shit, amiright?

      1. Greenygal

        Yeah, what is Ethan doing making his own decisions about his life and his choices? Doesn’t he know that he has an obligation to Amber to live the way she wants him to? Then again, by that logic Amber ought to listen to Ethan about how to handle her issues, and we’ve seen how that works out.

        I’m not inclined to blame Ethan anymore than I’m inclined to blame Amber for their mutual fucked-upness; if anything I just think it’s really sad, that they both tried so hard and still couldn’t fix things for each other.

        1. Yotomoe

          It’d be like if someone helped pay for your house, and then you burned it down for the insurance money and kept living in a box.

        2. Greenygal

          Yes, if not coming out was like committing a criminal act, then I suppose it might be. Or maybe that’s a really, really ill-advised comparison. Yeah, I think it’s that second one.

          Ethan does not owe it to Amber to come out. Ethan does not owe it to anybody to come out. It’s totally understandable that Amber is hurt and angry about how he handled it, but it’s Ethan’s life, not Amber’s.

        3. Yotomoe

          And I’m allowed to dislike him for that decision. I think it’s a shitty thing to do and I stand by that opinion. If I decide to quit drinking and someone helps me through the whole 12 step program only for me to fall back on the wagon. I’d feel like a shitty person.

        4. Jen Aside

          Gotta disagree. No one can know exactly what it’s like to live someone else’s life. Coming out is not like alcoholism, because being in a relationship is not mandatory. His and Joyce’s arrangement is not ideal, but it’s their mutual decision, even if it can’t last forever.

        5. Yotomoe

          Yeah…I can’t say I do. I ain’t gay so I can’t talk about how hard it is being gay. However I still feel like this is just a huge slap to the face to Amber. And I know it’s HIS choice and has nothing to do with her but I still think it’s inconsiderate. Bleh.

        6. Gangler

          That aside, recovery isn’t typically a linear process anyway. People are gonna fall off the wagon a few times. Stumble, fall, screw up, keep improving.

          I mean, that’s what makes it addiction. We point to “I can quit anytime I want” as a classic line indicating denial, because it doesn’t work out quite that simply once you actually set out to quit.

        7. Jen Aside

          Hurting Amber was inevitably going to happen nearly regardless of his choices, because it can be a slap in the face even when an ex you loved falls for the perfect person, because that person isn’t YOU.

          Or, if Ethan hooked up with a male Billie–just as destructive watching someone with someone who is completely wrong for that person.

        8. tinfoil theory

          Fortunately, there is a liquid that helps with tolerating shitty people.

        9. David M Willis

          is it peeing on their faces

        10. begbert2

          Dunno Willis I hear some people like that.

        11. Jen Aside

          how about poison

          for the shitty people, I mean

        12. tinfoil theory

          Several liquids.

          Peeing on your own face takes practice, though.

        13. Gangler

          Yeah, fuck me and whatever reasons I have for thinking I need some cash even at the expense of my shelter. Let’s all get up in arms over how I screwed over the donor in that scenario.

        14. gwalla

          Um, if you need cash, arson & insurance fraud really aren’t a legitimate option for getting it.

          Getting kind of off topic here tho…

        15. timemonkey

          While I kind of agree, Amber did end up taking a fuckton of crap from his family and apparently everyone else when he decided to come out. So he does owe her something, not control over his life and decisions for something.

        16. Gangler

          He owes her nothing. Her support was freely given. It was not a transaction or a loan. It was simply something she did as his friend.

          By trade, she owes Ethan nothing for all the support he’s given her over the years. Again, that’s just something he did as somebody who cares for her. That didn’t go onto any scoreboard to be translated into future favours. It’s in the past now. If he regrets it or feels like his efforts were wasted then that’s on him.

        17. Gangler

          Heck, even the notion that the shit she put up with helping him holds the smallest candle to his own difficulties as the person actually dealing with this shit.

          That’s not how it works. He might have put up with her dad to a certain extent, but she was the one who had him for a father. You can’t make the abused child’s struggle about the suffering of her friend who shows up voluntarily and gets to go home at the end of the day. You can’t make Ethan’s struggle about the shit Amber put up with for associating with him and advocating for him. It’s not about her. It was never about her. When all is said and done she isn’t the one who has to go out into the world as an openly gay man.

        18. Kerry

          this is a really good point
          thank you for making it

        19. Yotomoe

          I can’t really argue with ya. You’ve made good points. (I’m still gonna dislike Ethan though).

      2. newllend

        Ya, it not that bad though it’s not like it was emotionally and psychologically tiering her apart….oh wait.

  24. John

    I hope they were cute boys at least, Ethan! No big blue eyed jerks who break your heart.

  25. Regalli

    … Oh, goddammit, Blaine.

    Just when you think he can’t get worse, refusing to let his traumatized, already anxiety-ridden daughter go to therapy she desperately needs.

    I am so, so glad he got beat up. I am so, so glad his alternate is totally fucking dead. And yet, it is not enough and Amber beating him up more’s just going to be more catastrophic for her mental health. Goddammit, Blaine. Go get hit by a truck.

    1. ninja_jesus

      I hope in this reality, she’ll be better off.

    2. Plasma Mongoose

      He made her take up a self defence course and years later she becomes more than skilled enough to beats the living crap out of him, talk about being hoisted by your own petard.

    3. timemonkey

      Why would he let her become stronger emotionally after all those years of hard work tearing her down?

      1. Regalli

        Yeah, not surprising considering his treatment of her. But still, confirming that just adds one more reason he needs to die a very painful death.

  26. Raptorman

    Yep, Other Guys suck.

  27. newllend

    That is no way to talk about your ex’s Ethan, and by that I don’t mean amber

    (Today is my B-day !)

    1. APersonAmI

      Congratulations!

  28. Drakkin the Alien

    interesting. So he does not believes in therapists? Maybe from experience? This whole thing about Blame and his daugther keeps on reminding me of this movie:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119448/?ref_=nv_sr_2

    this is one quote from the movie: “‘I’ll strangle him for nine tenths, and the one tenth I leave him will make him strong.'”

  29. Norah

    Blaine was probably afraid that Amber would tell the therapist that he abused her and her mother both emotionally an physically. And an emotionally healthy Amber would probably have reported his abuse, or at least not be as vulnerable to it.

    1. neeks

      That’s a good point, I was thinking it was along the lines of “therapy is for weak people and my kid ain’t weak”.

      1. tinfoil theory

        That, or: psychology is not a science and all therapists are quacks.

    2. KingoHrts

      While I agree that Blaine may have been wanting Amber to stay under his thumb, the move to put her in Self-Defense classes instead of therapy, fits his statements about her being so weak and spineless. He probably never considered she would actually become strong enough to beat him or even challenge him. In fact, he probably wouldn’t believe it even if he knew Amber was Amazagirl. It doesn’t fit his worldview.

      1. Thomas

        I like your gravatar. Such an obvious idea, really, yet it feels totally novel.

      2. Deanatay

        Hrm, I always viewed the ‘Hrts’ as ‘Hurts’. I woulda used a club. 🙂

        1. Jen Aside

          I (club) Blaine

        2. Jen Aside

          I ♣︎ Blaine

          (found it)

        3. Twirls

          That’s a spade

        4. tinfoil theory

          Here, take one of these: ♣

        5. Jen Aside

          Why does your club look suspiciously like my “spade”

          [/snark]

    3. vmgx

      what a dick

  30. Thomas

    Blaine is a f**king jerk for refusing Amber “regular” therapy. No question about that. However, that doesn’t mean self-defence classes were a bad idea. It can be considered a form of therapy & almost certainly has contributed to Amber’s self-confidence.

    Although it certainly helps when your overbearing dad doesn’t force you to partake in them while yelling at you for being weak.

  31. timemonkey

    Self defense classes. Of course, that way he could stand in the back the whole time and make sure she never said anything he didn’t approve of. And when she never got any better it’d be because she was just weak, not because he was destroying her self confidence and being an ever looming threat.

    1. Thomas

      Probably not. A good instructor would immediately sense Blaine’s effect on Amber & simply ask him to leave & refuse to let him attend. Self-defense lessons are taught for a reason & instructors are aware of that.

      (I mean, Blaine’s not exactly subtle in his bullying. He doesn’t hide his behaviour. It’s out there for everyone to witness.)

      Man, I suddenly realized I hate Family Guy for another reason besides its incessant negativity. Fathers like Peter Griffin exist & they’re toxic.

      1. timemonkey

        But would Blaine know that?

  32. Kim

    Best alt. text. For serious

    1. Maycroft

      Thanks for pointing it out or I never would’ve seen it.

      1. Kim

        Glad I could help 🙂

  33. What was the question again?

    Danny/Ethan OTP?

    1. The_Master

      I could ship that.

  34. Jon_Sered

    That’s because guys know what guys like!!

  35. hof1991

    Ethan needs Denny, because he needs to be able to interact with a male without getting all hot and bothered. Living with Jacob has him practically fainting with desire. Seeing Joyce’s (male presenting) sibling had him panting. He needs some boy-talk that doesn’t fuel sexual fantasies. Robots. Batman. Danny shares a lot of his interests and outlook. I look forward to them being good friends, unless drama gets in the way. Which of course it will.

    1. oldFart

      What? You mean being gay doesn’t mean being attracted to all males? Straight men can’t just assume any gay man will give them head if they want? Horrors!

      (I’m told these assumtions or subtexts cause gay men a lot of trouble, especially if straight men get drunk around them. Same with lesbians and straight women, sometimes.)

      1. neeks

        Those particular straight guys (yeah yeah, not all men, I know, I know) are afraid gay guys will think of/treat them the way they think of/treat women.

  36. LBD "Nytetrayn"

    I keep seeing that Danny is oblivious, but at best (worst?), doesn’t he know Ethan as someone dating Joyce? Why would he think Ethan meant he was the one seeing other guys, then?

    1. Jen Aside

      I can’t recall that Joyce was ever mentioned between them, thanks for making me want to reread the whole archive AGAIN =p

      1. Greenygal

        Danny knows as of that first time they met…

      2. John

        Danny and Ethan first encountered each other when Ethan was smooching Joyce, and a couple strips later Joyce called Ethan her boyfriend while Danny was standing right there.

        On the other hand, Amber has mentioned to Danny that she’s had a dating-gay-dudes problem, and he knows that she dated Ethan. But I don’t think she’s ever told him that her dating-gay-dudes problem encompasses every other dude she’s dated, which is one dude, who is Ethan, who is totally gay.

        So while Danny’s pretty universally oblivious, I can’t really blame him for not catching this one just yet.

        1. Jen Aside

          Okay, could easily be Danny has a shit memory and… outside-box-thinking-ability like I have =B

          [but, any excuse to read the archives again!]

  37. Lord Geovanni

    how to break it to the guy that im gay with out completely scareing off so i can still get my regular reports on amber….. if they stay friends.

  38. Eukon

    Lol. That alt-txt

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