I had a feeling that Dina knew all the long, she just seemed to be the type to notice shit other people fail to pick up on.
Tunaro
All Amber does is wear an eyemask. Still seems like a real obvious secret identity no matter how I look at it.
Scoops!
i’ve mentioned it before, she looks at people’s mouths.
BarGamer
Oh, BRAVO on that callback, sir. I raise my drink to you, and wish I had said it first.
kelticat
Reminds m of a silver age Batman where Vicki Vale figured out the Batman/Bruce link by noticing his chin.
Hmmm…wonder if VV had Aspergers
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
It’s the superman identity thing. Not the one that superman doesn’t need a secret identity. The one that even though superman looks physically like Clark Kent, Superman doesn’t slouch, isn’t meek, and just overall acts completely different. Couple that with mankinds tendency to remember events how they thanked they happened rather than exactly how they happened, and no one ever thinks that they’re the same two people. The one small difference of a mask or not makes two different people, because that’s what people believe
Joe
Except for in one comic where it was revealed that his SUPER glasses are made from SUPER krypton glass, which magnifies his powers of SUPER hypnotism which lets him unconsciously convince everyone who sees him ask Clark Kent that he’s a meek-looking, balding reporter.
Cthulhu21
That, right there, is what is known as confirmation bias. Thank you for pointing out human-kinds’ tendency to see what they want to see.
Bilfred
No! She also musses up her hair!
AdInfinitumSpero
Try going from glasses to no glasses, dressing unusually for you, and a different hair style, people who know you will have a hard time recognizing, add on that she works primarily at night. Trust me on this one. I recently went from long hair my entire life to short hair, and wearing glasses which I haven’t done since high school. I’ve had to deal with a lot of cases of people seeming to not know who the fuck I am until I talk. Now imagine I was disguising my voice as Amazigirl clearly does.
Paul McCartney slicked back his hair, put on a pair of glasses, and a fake mustache and went around Paris completely unnoticed at the height of Beatlemania. He got back to the hotel and George Harrison didn’t even recognize him.
John
I think it’s the other way around. It’s not that Dina’s seeing more than everyone else; it’s that she’s seeing less. All the little subtle things about Amber’s mannerisms and body language that change when she puts the mask on, all the things that subconsciously communicate to people with fully-functioning social senses, “This awesome ass-kicking superheroine is not that timid reclusive girl who lives on your floor”… Dina can’t see anyway. So to her, Amazi-Girl is just Amber wearing a cape.
V Missirian
Thats a good point 🙂
Lilith
Yes, and I think Dina doesn’t have those social preconceptions that make other people think that shut-in nerds can’t be superheroes.
Yeah I read her that way too, not dxed because she’s canonically not dxed as anything, but Aut. (Girls go undiagnosed until college so often if they’re conventionally smart and can talk it’s not even funny…)
I know some other Autistic people who read her that way too.
yomikoma
I’m reminded of the webcomic Freefall. In that, robots can disguise themselves to other robots by switching transponders with vehicles. “Why is a motorcycle talking to me?” Nonrobots actually look at what’s there and are not fooled.
tinfoil theory
Of course Dina knew. She was there when Amber put on the costume.
Amber thought she had left but as always she was just standing behind the door again.
Charlie Spencer
I think Dina doesn’t recognize running around in a mask and cape as out of the ordinary or worthy of comment. Her “That’s odd…” sensors are set differently.
I thought she was referring to her own inner demons/alternate personas.
Jonathan S.
Why would her inner demons be out in the hall?
Blob Marley
1) Nice gravatar for this comment.
2) Because superheroes don’t obey the same laws of logic that the rest of us are beholden to.
lejwocky
My interpretation was that Amber thought something might be in the hall that would trigger an unpleasant flashback or Amazi-Girl episode. Given all of the recent drama involving her alternate persona, perhaps she would be hesitant to allow it to emerge again.
I too had forgotten the flashback to the aftermath of the mini-mart robbery when Amber stabbed Sal in the hand — but don’t forget it was Dorothy and Walky that were chasing her in the first place, and Dorothy then got the article published in the IDS.  So it could be either of them.
Isn’t there already one above? And on several other pages where Dina appears?
Jen Aside
That one’s timestamped two minutes later. “Above”ness is less relevant with threaded comments, since you can just tack a comment onto an earlier post [unless that post is the first post of the first thread]. [[see also a comment I made below about “everyone every time Dina says anything”]]
Not sure but I was trying to think of a Brit accent that’s the opposite of “Received Pronunciation” and Glaswegian is one of the roughest I can recall.
Well there’s Scouse (Liverpudlian), Manc (Manchester), Black Country (the Midlands, Birmingham etc, where Alan Moore’s from), West Country (Bristol, Devon etc. think stereotypical pirate voice), Reading (Ricky Gervais), Estuary English (David Tennant’s Doctor accent)…
And that’s only some of ’em. Yeah, the UK might be small but we have a ton of accents. Generally the rule is that as you approach the Scottish border from the South they get a bit harder to understand.
236 thoughts on “Nemesis”
Frogger
Ha! Nice.
Ivan
Which one is the idiot and which one is the savant?
Parnifia the Bastard
Both and neither.
Jessica
I believe you’re looking for . One is a genius the others insane.
tlaurence
Ah, so you have Pinky on the brain. (Pun intended)
Aeyt
I nearly spit out my food. that’s so awesome!
Claire
Dina you smart girl!
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
Clever girl…
Plasma Mongoose
I had a feeling that Dina knew all the long, she just seemed to be the type to notice shit other people fail to pick up on.
Tunaro
All Amber does is wear an eyemask. Still seems like a real obvious secret identity no matter how I look at it.
Scoops!
i’ve mentioned it before, she looks at people’s mouths.
BarGamer
Oh, BRAVO on that callback, sir. I raise my drink to you, and wish I had said it first.
kelticat
Reminds m of a silver age Batman where Vicki Vale figured out the Batman/Bruce link by noticing his chin.
Hmmm…wonder if VV had Aspergers
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
It’s the superman identity thing. Not the one that superman doesn’t need a secret identity. The one that even though superman looks physically like Clark Kent, Superman doesn’t slouch, isn’t meek, and just overall acts completely different. Couple that with mankinds tendency to remember events how they thanked they happened rather than exactly how they happened, and no one ever thinks that they’re the same two people. The one small difference of a mask or not makes two different people, because that’s what people believe
Joe
Except for in one comic where it was revealed that his SUPER glasses are made from SUPER krypton glass, which magnifies his powers of SUPER hypnotism which lets him unconsciously convince everyone who sees him ask Clark Kent that he’s a meek-looking, balding reporter.
Cthulhu21
That, right there, is what is known as confirmation bias. Thank you for pointing out human-kinds’ tendency to see what they want to see.
Bilfred
No! She also musses up her hair!
AdInfinitumSpero
Try going from glasses to no glasses, dressing unusually for you, and a different hair style, people who know you will have a hard time recognizing, add on that she works primarily at night. Trust me on this one. I recently went from long hair my entire life to short hair, and wearing glasses which I haven’t done since high school. I’ve had to deal with a lot of cases of people seeming to not know who the fuck I am until I talk. Now imagine I was disguising my voice as Amazigirl clearly does.
Makkabee
Paul McCartney slicked back his hair, put on a pair of glasses, and a fake mustache and went around Paris completely unnoticed at the height of Beatlemania. He got back to the hotel and George Harrison didn’t even recognize him.
John
I think it’s the other way around. It’s not that Dina’s seeing more than everyone else; it’s that she’s seeing less. All the little subtle things about Amber’s mannerisms and body language that change when she puts the mask on, all the things that subconsciously communicate to people with fully-functioning social senses, “This awesome ass-kicking superheroine is not that timid reclusive girl who lives on your floor”… Dina can’t see anyway. So to her, Amazi-Girl is just Amber wearing a cape.
V Missirian
Thats a good point 🙂
Lilith
Yes, and I think Dina doesn’t have those social preconceptions that make other people think that shut-in nerds can’t be superheroes.
John
I’m pretty sure that Billie’s social preconceptions are that superheroes are shut-in nerds.
Icalasari
I swear Dina must be at least mildly Autistic. Just… So much FITS!
Kiracorn
I think she is. Like me 🙂
Alyssa
Yeah I read her that way too, not dxed because she’s canonically not dxed as anything, but Aut. (Girls go undiagnosed until college so often if they’re conventionally smart and can talk it’s not even funny…)
I know some other Autistic people who read her that way too.
yomikoma
I’m reminded of the webcomic Freefall. In that, robots can disguise themselves to other robots by switching transponders with vehicles. “Why is a motorcycle talking to me?” Nonrobots actually look at what’s there and are not fooled.
tinfoil theory
Of course Dina knew. She was there when Amber put on the costume.
petsinwinter
Amber thought she had left but as always she was just standing behind the door again.
Charlie Spencer
I think Dina doesn’t recognize running around in a mask and cape as out of the ordinary or worthy of comment. Her “That’s odd…” sensors are set differently.
MrSpkr
I saw what you did there… Well played!
Bill
Dina sees much and knows much, but doesn’t necessarily broadcast it.  Further proof of the old adage that “still waters run deep”.
Jen Aside
Funny thing is I spent a solid ten minutes thinking Amber was talking about Dorothy and wondering why, before remembering Sal.
*no attention span*
lejwocky
I thought she was referring to her own inner demons/alternate personas.
Jonathan S.
Why would her inner demons be out in the hall?
Blob Marley
1) Nice gravatar for this comment.
2) Because superheroes don’t obey the same laws of logic that the rest of us are beholden to.
lejwocky
My interpretation was that Amber thought something might be in the hall that would trigger an unpleasant flashback or Amazi-Girl episode. Given all of the recent drama involving her alternate persona, perhaps she would be hesitant to allow it to emerge again.
Bill
I too had forgotten the flashback to the aftermath of the mini-mart robbery when Amber stabbed Sal in the hand — but don’t forget it was Dorothy and Walky that were chasing her in the first place, and Dorothy then got the article published in the IDS.  So it could be either of them.
Or both!
AdInfinitumSpero
ER, well then. Thanks, I actually was a bit confused too.
EEWWW
I thought she was worried about Blaine being in the hall. Then I remembered the Sal/Amber history… takes a minute or two now that I’m older.
Bilfred
Dina: evil schemer.
Evergreenfir
Of course
Yotomoe
What? isn’t it obvious? It’s literally just you in a halloween costume.
Tanarin
Clever Girl…
Opus the Poet
And you win with the first “Clever Girl” reference.
Drunken Nordmann
Isn’t there already one above? And on several other pages where Dina appears?
Jen Aside
That one’s timestamped two minutes later. “Above”ness is less relevant with threaded comments, since you can just tack a comment onto an earlier post [unless that post is the first post of the first thread]. [[see also a comment I made below about “everyone every time Dina says anything”]]
Drunken Nordmann
So at least the second part of my comment is still valid. Well, better being half-right then wholly wrong.
Bach
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Badeyes
Exactly what was in my head, freakishly down to the exact number of HA’s.
now i’m a little weirded out.
Figrin
Clever girl!
Wonder Wig
Clever –
Evergreenfir
Clever girl
Cragalanch
Dina: Secret identity breaker
Tunaro
Dina is smart and Sal would make an awesome Joker to Amber’s Batman.
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
And Dina an excellent Alfred.
Tunaro
I thought Danny was her Alfred.
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
Nah, Alfred is as badass as batman in the comics. Danny can’t compare in awesomeness to Dina.
Tunaro
I woulda said Catwoman, but I really don’t wanna picture Danny in full body leather.
Doctor_Who
Danny is Vicky Vale.
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
I see that; a Lois lane parallel with a bit better luck at actually finding the secret identity
3oranges
She’s already had to rescue Danny from being captured, even though he’s supposed to help her. I think that makes him Robin.
Plasma Mongoose
I have a hard time imagining Dina with a polished British accent.
JessWitt
What about a brittle Polish accent then?
Plasma Mongoose
Like Glaswegian for example?
JessWitt
Is that what Glasgow folks sound like? Cor blimey and a squirt full of frosting.
Plasma Mongoose
Not sure but I was trying to think of a Brit accent that’s the opposite of “Received Pronunciation” and Glaswegian is one of the roughest I can recall.
espanolbot
Well there’s Scouse (Liverpudlian), Manc (Manchester), Black Country (the Midlands, Birmingham etc, where Alan Moore’s from), West Country (Bristol, Devon etc. think stereotypical pirate voice), Reading (Ricky Gervais), Estuary English (David Tennant’s Doctor accent)…
And that’s only some of ’em. Yeah, the UK might be small but we have a ton of accents. Generally the rule is that as you approach the Scottish border from the South they get a bit harder to understand.
Plasma Mongoose
You sure know your British accents ^_^
Makkabee
Linguistics Geekgasm!
Tunaro
Really? I always thought she’d talk in a sort of Cambridge-y way, if that’s a thing.
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
Well, Dina can learn from Jason the same way sal does.
Opus the Poet
I don’t think so, Dina is not quite ready for that level of human physical interaction.
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
I was talking about through math.
Bill
Not likely.  Dina still thinks that “mammals are weird”.