I’m p sure my li’l bro is why my folks calmed the fuck down about anything I ever pulled
granted I had basically moved out by then but STILL
(tbf my folks only TRULY got mad at me once, over being naive about PETA, which I had a feeling about but really should have guessed since my now-retired dad was a research scientist but my judgement was iffy as a kid [not like it’s THAT much better now lol but I try to plan better in case of failure these days])
Cue massive John Wick style action sequence where Sal takes on the entire Korean mafia, finally meets up with the leader, and then pointedly fills out a complaint card, puts it in his shirt pocket, and then smokebombs away.
Through a complex series of thought adventures, this gave me the image of Gramps being so impressed by Sal he tries to set her up with Asher. Through comical but very mobster hijinks, obviously.
oh, yeah, Asher, we haven’t seen him that night right ? He probably helped hire the goons but didn’t participate personally ?
DrunkenNordmann
I think all he did was pulling the fire alarm.
Regalli
He pulled the fire alarm (due to being blackmailed,) but did not know what Blaine had planned and was told it didn’t involve violence. Though whether or not Asher believed that is a VERY good question.
Hasn’t been firmly established. Ruth’s suplex line seems to be indicating it’s the day after, Sarah implying the worst part of her day yesterday was dealing with her parents kind of suggests more than a day (unless that was a DAMN unpleasant set of talks, which is entirely plausible when you’re already sleep-deprived and out of emotional bandwidth. Still, she saw a dude get murdered.)
Either way, ‘dealing with an abusive parent immediately going On Her Shit in a way you’re only now beginning to grasp with the benefit of distance and actually seeing the other person who lived through it for the first time in five years is in fact DEEPLY fucked up’ is pretty much the bottom of the list of things I’d want to do after being kidnapped and one of my kidnappers murdering the other one.
Shame Mike’s in a coma. Linda is just the sort of situation his brand of assholery tanking could be useful for.
Meagan
I took it as Sarah indeed comparing seeing her parents separately to being kidnapped and concluding that it was worse than being kidnapped, in a snide way.
That was my take, too.
I’d have upvoted you… if I could.
Zee
I think the point was that Sarah found dealing with her concerned and comforting parents worse than being kidnapped and witnessing a murder. Because that’s extremely in character
thejeff
Well, we don’t know to what extent her parents were concerned and comforting or how effective they were at it.
Could be they’re the type where you wind up having to comfort them more than they comfort you. Which is exhausting, when you’re already overwhelmed yourself.
Aw. They’re actually starting to mend their relationship. Hopefully this semi-sweetness helps us weather the absolute emotional fuckparade of an aftermath going down.
If it’s the same ad I’m seeing (for something called “Klarna”), it is just a little bit on the creepy side. Unless it’s supposed to be a reference to the 2007 film “Lars and the Real Girl”, in which case it’s DOUBLE creepy.
For some reason I keep getting Trump ads (often masquerading as “polls”) pretty much everywhere I go. I’m not sure I like what that says about my Google search history.
fogel
I think/hope that it means that The Algorthm isn’t yet as foolproof/discerning as its going to be eventually, which I think/hope is good: keep it guessing!
Daniel M Ball
it probably means you’ve been spending WAY too much time looking at political content.
Can we elect Mike with a write-in vote? That would Really drain the swamp. Also, In a coma? Yeah I think, Mike, Is better. I like, Mike, much better than being in a (Mike)
They are. Trump ads cheat by categorizing themselves as other kinds of ads.
Needfuldoer
Have to admit, that’s pretty on-brand for him…
Reltzik
Huh.
And here I thought Trump cheated by courting porn stars and Playboy models and committing sexual harassment.
Needfuldoer
That’s just one definition of ‘cheating’ that fits him.
“Cheat your way up by claiming to be something you’re not” has been his M.O. for decades.
Rabid Rabbit
There’s also Trump University. Never forget Trump University.
(And, of course, the electoral college, but that’s not so much cheating as winning thanks to the system. As someone from Canada, all I can say is “Great, another reason for people to look at how things are here and go “Yeah, they’re not ideal, but at least they’re not as bad as in the States…”)
Ryek Hvek
Tales of Trump University is a comic waiting to happen
Miri
It’s not just us Brits who do that?
And thanks to the clown in charge of our country and trade negotiations, a side helping of “please don’t let us become as bad as the United States…” Most people I know like our food standards, for instance (unchlorinated chicken is the one we hear about most frequently, but also including places of origin, transparent nutritional and ingredients info, not including corn syrup as an ingredient in pretty much all foods, etc…)
Ryek Hvek
the wonderfulness of corn syrup is evidenced by their producers’ attempts to rename it “corn sugar”
E-tailors are great, though. They make sure the middle line doesn’t extend too far, and get the curl to end just right so you don’t get too much of a circle.
Though there was one I used to go to that tried to sell me weirdly proportioned lowercase E-s. Turns out the crook was getting cheap schwa-s and flipping them upside-down, trying to pass them off as first quality e-s. They lost my business and got a 1-star review.
Aw, I was hoping this would happen.
What Walky did was a pretty important step, even if it wasn’t a huge one. Sal realizes this. And I knew that it wasn’t big enough to warrant a hug…
That meant “thanks” was the only thing left. Good to know that some times, you can predict what will happen, be right, and just enjoy the feel good result.
I can’t tell if Sal serious with her thanks or not, but I’m going to work under the assumption she is. In which case, it’s good to see Walky and Sal getting along.
Now what are Linda and Charles saying while they’re gone? And is Linda going to really try to get Amber expelled?
I think she’s being serious, yeah. Sal and Walky have been getting along better lately, and like she says, they’re not a hugging family. So I think she’s being sincere.
Sal – Guessing so? Walky in particular has been trying to reach out and do better with Sal for a while now, and Sal’s been aware of it. Also, Linda is REALLY GOOD at making her children feel like garbage and Sal knows that too, so she’s probably aware it took some effort.
Linda – Given past events (stealing money to try and force Sal to abandon her best friend, sending Sal states away and never visiting after the convenience store,) ‘get rid of whatever is bothering me’ seems to be a strategy she uses on occasion. Plus, as Walky points out, she used to be married to Dean McHenry and seems to have had an amicable breakup. That is DEFINITELY a connection that is set up in the first act to be leveraged in the third, and ‘try to get one of the kidnapping victims expelled for being kidnapped’ is PRECISELY the level of misuse I’d expect from Linda with it!
I mean, MAYBE she’ll take a minute, cool off, and listen to her kids! And maybe Dexter will burst out of the TV and declare himself the new godking of this planet, and Walky’s knowledge of esoteric Dexter and Monkey Master lore will prove vital to the resistance! Both are about equally likely.
I want Walky to have that dream now. Willis, if you’re ever in need of a nonsensical dream, this is the one.
Regalli
I honestly would be 100% fine with the return of Head Alien and his particular brand of CARTOONISH emotional manipulation games. The cast has even had time to build up some resistance to that shit. Plus, giant robot monkey!
Miri
Not having been routinely tortured by the aliens as children might just help with the whole mental resilience towards their tricks thing, methinks…
Yeah, at the moment Linda has zero reason to NOT pursue Amber’s expulsion. To her, she’s just the common denominator in her children’s pain (we as readers know that the Walkerton parenting style seems to be the true common denominator, but hey….), and it’s not like either of her kids have put up much of a fight. Sal made a comment that Linda could easily write off as simple sass and then walked away without actually advocating for anything, and Walky only defended Sal’s behavior.
Granted, assuming in the next few strips her kids actually say something approaching “hey, I don’t want you to do that,” she seems to be a bull-dozer of a parent anyway, so I doubt it will matter.
Regalli
Yeah, I’m pretty sure Sal walked away because she knew Linda won’t suddenly start listening to her today of all days. And Walky’s best attempts (‘she’s our friend’ and ‘I’m kind of dating her, maybe?’) would probably both prompt a reaction similar to her one over Marcie. The issue then becomes that the twins are making friends with The Wrong Kind Of People again!
Uuuugh, Linda.
BBCC
She has a very good reason not to pursue Amber’s expulsion – the kidnapping is not Amber’s fault and it’s shitty human being behaviour to punish someone for something they are not responsible for.
She DID stab Sal five years ago, but that’s not something the school’s going to kick Amber out for. I mean, they’re not kicking Sal out for holding Ethan hostage with a knife so. And Linda didn’t give a rat’s ass about her daughter’s hand if not was actively shitty about it (she doesn’t hide her hand from them for no reason) until it affected Walky.
SuperZero
Linda isn’t exactly showing much interest in her children’s pain.
And they both made it clear they don’t want her to. Well, Walky expressed shock at her conclusion, but close enough.
I think she’s sincere, particularly since she’s the one who brought up Walky ‘breaking ranks’. If he’d come out bragging about sticking up for her, it would’ve been a different story, but it feels like Sal was hopefully reaching for a bit of solidarity from Walky and got more than she expected.
149 thoughts on “Karen”
Ana Chronistic
I’m p sure my li’l bro is why my folks calmed the fuck down about anything I ever pulled
granted I had basically moved out by then but STILL
(tbf my folks only TRULY got mad at me once, over being naive about PETA, which I had a feeling about but really should have guessed since my now-retired dad was a research scientist but my judgement was iffy as a kid [not like it’s THAT much better now lol but I try to plan better in case of failure these days])
Schpoonman
Holy shit, the comic is titled “Karen”.
Schpoonman
Was “manager” used elsewhere?
AntJ
Twice https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/manager/
AntJ
here’s the second one https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/manager-2/
Arianod
Is her actual name still “Linda”?
Needfuldoer
My headcanon’s going with “Linda Karen Walkerton” as her full name until it’s told otherwise.
CC
I’m betting the word “Karen” was used in an earlier draft. We’ve had titles like that happen before.
Norah
I think he meant it, because of the “speak to the manager” Karen meme.
Yumi
Hm, does Walky know how to do his laundry?
Doctor_Who
I mean, they’ve been at school for a couple of months now…
(Remembers college)
…so call it 50/50.
Felix
Can? Maybe. Will? 50/50. If pressured to do so.
Jim
Haven’t they only been at school like 45 days? I’ve lost track of Dumbiverse time… You hardly ever see a calendar.
clif
Knowing and doing are two different things.
Ryek Hvek
Sure, just toss clothes in washer and add detergent, and wait for that red flannel shirt to turn your undies pink.
Chris
Maybe she should talk to the kidnapper’s manager instead.
Doctor_Who
Cue massive John Wick style action sequence where Sal takes on the entire Korean mafia, finally meets up with the leader, and then pointedly fills out a complaint card, puts it in his shirt pocket, and then smokebombs away.
Regalli
Through a complex series of thought adventures, this gave me the image of Gramps being so impressed by Sal he tries to set her up with Asher. Through comical but very mobster hijinks, obviously.
ktbear
Somebody has to write that, would pay good money!
DarkoNeko
oh, yeah, Asher, we haven’t seen him that night right ? He probably helped hire the goons but didn’t participate personally ?
DrunkenNordmann
I think all he did was pulling the fire alarm.
Regalli
He pulled the fire alarm (due to being blackmailed,) but did not know what Blaine had planned and was told it didn’t involve violence. Though whether or not Asher believed that is a VERY good question.
nobilis
I want to read that!
Newllend(henryvolt)
I don’t know if it’s a good thing to get involved with the Korean mafia boss
Rabid Rabbit
Worked out for Blaine! (Until recently, at least.)
Sirksome
Meh. This will be the second time Walky has had to change his pants in as many days.
Sirksome
Actually I might be wrong. I think a day has passed since the kidnapping right? So three days.
Regalli
Hasn’t been firmly established. Ruth’s suplex line seems to be indicating it’s the day after, Sarah implying the worst part of her day yesterday was dealing with her parents kind of suggests more than a day (unless that was a DAMN unpleasant set of talks, which is entirely plausible when you’re already sleep-deprived and out of emotional bandwidth. Still, she saw a dude get murdered.)
Either way, ‘dealing with an abusive parent immediately going On Her Shit in a way you’re only now beginning to grasp with the benefit of distance and actually seeing the other person who lived through it for the first time in five years is in fact DEEPLY fucked up’ is pretty much the bottom of the list of things I’d want to do after being kidnapped and one of my kidnappers murdering the other one.
Shame Mike’s in a coma. Linda is just the sort of situation his brand of assholery tanking could be useful for.
Meagan
I took it as Sarah indeed comparing seeing her parents separately to being kidnapped and concluding that it was worse than being kidnapped, in a snide way.
elebenty
That was my take, too.
I’d have upvoted you… if I could.
Zee
I think the point was that Sarah found dealing with her concerned and comforting parents worse than being kidnapped and witnessing a murder. Because that’s extremely in character
thejeff
Well, we don’t know to what extent her parents were concerned and comforting or how effective they were at it.
Could be they’re the type where you wind up having to comfort them more than they comfort you. Which is exhausting, when you’re already overwhelmed yourself.
Mr. Random
Sibling relationships are the weirdest and greatest in fiction.
Especially when they’re shown realistically.
Jess
I know, right! I was just thinking that Willis did a really good job with them here.
Zor
Aw. They’re actually starting to mend their relationship. Hopefully this semi-sweetness helps us weather the absolute emotional fuckparade of an aftermath going down.
Stephen Bierce
Today’s strip is sponsored by a clothing e-tailer. Which I guess is better than an e-tailor.
Bicycle Bill
If it’s the same ad I’m seeing (for something called “Klarna”), it is just a little bit on the creepy side. Unless it’s supposed to be a reference to the 2007 film “Lars and the Real Girl”, in which case it’s DOUBLE creepy.
Bicycle Bill
Plays “Last Dance with Mary Jane” on the hacked Muzak for that ad.
Gandalf007
Ugh, I’m getting a Trump ad in the top banner. You’d think they’d be blocked on this site…
Reltzik
For some reason I keep getting Trump ads (often masquerading as “polls”) pretty much everywhere I go. I’m not sure I like what that says about my Google search history.
fogel
I think/hope that it means that The Algorthm isn’t yet as foolproof/discerning as its going to be eventually, which I think/hope is good: keep it guessing!
Daniel M Ball
it probably means you’ve been spending WAY too much time looking at political content.
elebenty
I think those polls are tracking traps
and an excuse to target those who clearly aren’t interested.
Geneseepaws
Can we elect Mike with a write-in vote? That would Really drain the swamp. Also, In a coma? Yeah I think, Mike, Is better. I like, Mike, much better than being in a (Mike)
David M Willis
They are. Trump ads cheat by categorizing themselves as other kinds of ads.
Needfuldoer
Have to admit, that’s pretty on-brand for him…
Reltzik
Huh.
And here I thought Trump cheated by courting porn stars and Playboy models and committing sexual harassment.
Needfuldoer
That’s just one definition of ‘cheating’ that fits him.
“Cheat your way up by claiming to be something you’re not” has been his M.O. for decades.
Rabid Rabbit
There’s also Trump University. Never forget Trump University.
(And, of course, the electoral college, but that’s not so much cheating as winning thanks to the system. As someone from Canada, all I can say is “Great, another reason for people to look at how things are here and go “Yeah, they’re not ideal, but at least they’re not as bad as in the States…”)
Ryek Hvek
Tales of Trump University is a comic waiting to happen
Miri
It’s not just us Brits who do that?
And thanks to the clown in charge of our country and trade negotiations, a side helping of “please don’t let us become as bad as the United States…” Most people I know like our food standards, for instance (unchlorinated chicken is the one we hear about most frequently, but also including places of origin, transparent nutritional and ingredients info, not including corn syrup as an ingredient in pretty much all foods, etc…)
Ryek Hvek
the wonderfulness of corn syrup is evidenced by their producers’ attempts to rename it “corn sugar”
Needfuldoer
E-tailors are great, though. They make sure the middle line doesn’t extend too far, and get the curl to end just right so you don’t get too much of a circle.
Though there was one I used to go to that tried to sell me weirdly proportioned lowercase E-s. Turns out the crook was getting cheap schwa-s and flipping them upside-down, trying to pass them off as first quality e-s. They lost my business and got a 1-star review.
Pagemistress
Aw, I was hoping this would happen.
What Walky did was a pretty important step, even if it wasn’t a huge one. Sal realizes this. And I knew that it wasn’t big enough to warrant a hug…
That meant “thanks” was the only thing left. Good to know that some times, you can predict what will happen, be right, and just enjoy the feel good result.
Minotaur
Then, again, that hug was never going to happen: they never were a hugging family
Pagemistress
Yeah, I figure a hug will come from something really big if it happens. I dunno what it could be, but it’d be big.
aqua
Joyce meddling
Kyrik Michalowski
I can’t tell if Sal serious with her thanks or not, but I’m going to work under the assumption she is. In which case, it’s good to see Walky and Sal getting along.
Now what are Linda and Charles saying while they’re gone? And is Linda going to really try to get Amber expelled?
Lokitsu
I think Sal’s a little surprised.
DailyBrad
I think she’s being serious, yeah. Sal and Walky have been getting along better lately, and like she says, they’re not a hugging family. So I think she’s being sincere.
Regalli
Sal – Guessing so? Walky in particular has been trying to reach out and do better with Sal for a while now, and Sal’s been aware of it. Also, Linda is REALLY GOOD at making her children feel like garbage and Sal knows that too, so she’s probably aware it took some effort.
Linda – Given past events (stealing money to try and force Sal to abandon her best friend, sending Sal states away and never visiting after the convenience store,) ‘get rid of whatever is bothering me’ seems to be a strategy she uses on occasion. Plus, as Walky points out, she used to be married to Dean McHenry and seems to have had an amicable breakup. That is DEFINITELY a connection that is set up in the first act to be leveraged in the third, and ‘try to get one of the kidnapping victims expelled for being kidnapped’ is PRECISELY the level of misuse I’d expect from Linda with it!
I mean, MAYBE she’ll take a minute, cool off, and listen to her kids! And maybe Dexter will burst out of the TV and declare himself the new godking of this planet, and Walky’s knowledge of esoteric Dexter and Monkey Master lore will prove vital to the resistance! Both are about equally likely.
Kyrik Michalowski
I want Walky to have that dream now. Willis, if you’re ever in need of a nonsensical dream, this is the one.
Regalli
I honestly would be 100% fine with the return of Head Alien and his particular brand of CARTOONISH emotional manipulation games. The cast has even had time to build up some resistance to that shit. Plus, giant robot monkey!
Miri
Not having been routinely tortured by the aliens as children might just help with the whole mental resilience towards their tricks thing, methinks…
Regina phalange
Yeah, at the moment Linda has zero reason to NOT pursue Amber’s expulsion. To her, she’s just the common denominator in her children’s pain (we as readers know that the Walkerton parenting style seems to be the true common denominator, but hey….), and it’s not like either of her kids have put up much of a fight. Sal made a comment that Linda could easily write off as simple sass and then walked away without actually advocating for anything, and Walky only defended Sal’s behavior.
Granted, assuming in the next few strips her kids actually say something approaching “hey, I don’t want you to do that,” she seems to be a bull-dozer of a parent anyway, so I doubt it will matter.
Regalli
Yeah, I’m pretty sure Sal walked away because she knew Linda won’t suddenly start listening to her today of all days. And Walky’s best attempts (‘she’s our friend’ and ‘I’m kind of dating her, maybe?’) would probably both prompt a reaction similar to her one over Marcie. The issue then becomes that the twins are making friends with The Wrong Kind Of People again!
Uuuugh, Linda.
BBCC
She has a very good reason not to pursue Amber’s expulsion – the kidnapping is not Amber’s fault and it’s shitty human being behaviour to punish someone for something they are not responsible for.
She DID stab Sal five years ago, but that’s not something the school’s going to kick Amber out for. I mean, they’re not kicking Sal out for holding Ethan hostage with a knife so. And Linda didn’t give a rat’s ass about her daughter’s hand if not was actively shitty about it (she doesn’t hide her hand from them for no reason) until it affected Walky.
SuperZero
Linda isn’t exactly showing much interest in her children’s pain.
And they both made it clear they don’t want her to. Well, Walky expressed shock at her conclusion, but close enough.
Cyrus
I think she’s sincere, particularly since she’s the one who brought up Walky ‘breaking ranks’. If he’d come out bragging about sticking up for her, it would’ve been a different story, but it feels like Sal was hopefully reaching for a bit of solidarity from Walky and got more than she expected.
Mr D
Took me 2 or 3 reads to realize the “manager” Walky is talking about is the Dean.
Geneseepaws