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In some states, it can also refer to sexy crimes. Like butt sex. At least until those old laws get repealed.
Wizard
Formal repeal would be nice, but at least they’re unenforceable.
Chris Phoenix
No, sex laws are not unenforceable. It wasn’t many years ago that, in a nasty divorce, a wife accused her husband of a consensual but illegal sex act – and he went to prison.
SuperZero
“I accuse you of the two of us doing something illegal together” sounds like a bad idea.
Benjamin Geiger
Where did this happen?
In the US, Lawrence v. Texas pretty much prevents that.
clif
But that’s only since 2003. I guess it depends on what you mean by recent.
Kaz
“Enforceable” doesn’t mean it wont come up in court. It means you wont be arrested for just that. I personally refer to them as “leech laws” because they only exist by clinging onto others.
SalleighG
“Unenforceable” laws can still be charged and proceed through the court system. They can still land you in jail for the charging process, and you can still be assessed bail for them that is higher than you can afford, and if you cannot afford that bail then you can still end up in jail for extended periods awaiting trial. Getting yourself acquitted can still effectively require hiring a lawyer (because in some areas public defender funds have been slashed a lot).
Furthermore, you can still be convicted of an offence that is on the books but which has been ruled against in the past, requiring that you appeal. You can lose the appeal too.
You as a person living in the USA might know well that “morally speaking” your circumstances should be covered by Lawrence vs Texas, but that doesn’t stop an ambitious anti-lgbt state government from itching to make an example of someone and claim that Lawrence does not apply because “state’s rights” or claiming that Lawrence does not apply in all circumstances. Possibly even hoping that SCOTUS has been sufficiently stacked by now that Lawrence can be overturned. For example a state could decide that it was “reasonable” that sodomy should be illegal for anyone under the age at which alcohol is permitted, the idea that “for the safety of” the people and the public that some activities should be regulated until 21 or whatever age.
A major case such as Lawrence does not prevent you from being charged with laws that are still on the books: it just means that IF you have enough time and financial resources to take the case sufficiently high then you should win.
Look at the Obergefell experiences: some states (with full internal political backing) claimed that the decision did not apply in their state, or that OK so maybe they had to permit marriage but they did not have to pay pensions in same-sex cases, and so on.
Prosecutors love having unenforceable laws, because it gives them *leverage*. Poor people, minorities, trans people, can’t afford to fight the cases, so people plea bargain, accepting convictions for things that would surely *eventually* be dismissed. Including in states where the conviction will result in loss of voting rights: the “unenforceable” laws are absolutely being used as a tool for political repression.
Why does this work in law? Because rulings such as Lawrence do not wipe laws off the books, they only provide a potential defense, and in law a court is entitled to hold a trial and hear evidence about what occurred and force the defence to prove that the circumstances are covered by the major ruling.
And imagine if you are an undocumented person or a person who has applied for citizenship: if you live in a state with the “unenforceable” laws on the books, the police know well that the laws are an opportunity to throw you into the legal system that might even convict you but very likely will throw you out of the country. It is LEGAL in some states to prevent someone on bail from appearing at an administrative immigration hearing with the result of losing right of residence, even when it is known full well that the original charges are likely to result in a Not Guilty verdict. People that this happens to often lose their immigration appeals. It is not considered an irreparable harm because in theory the person can re-apply for immigration. Police know this. Undocumented people and immigrants know this. So it is more or less blackmail material, and is used that way.
The idiots burning 5g towers because they think they spread coronavirus for example, aren’t doing rad crimes.
EvilMidnightLurker
Burning Minneapolis police stations, now…
Vabolo
That’s hot
Strangeshapes
Burning down 5g towers takes away my internet, driving me out of my home seclusion, ironically increasing my likelihood of getting/spreading coronavirus …
It’s a CONSPIRACY, man!
The things is, “realism” has been, uh, different. Lately.
Strangeshapes
Funny how six months ago this story arc would have been ridiculously grim-dark. And then Reality took a look, laughed at Willis and said, “Hold my beer.”
Laws of physics have always been optional to Amazi-Girl. It appears her field of influence has spread. As has her impact on probability and need for suspension of disbelief.
I hope there are no sharks in the neighborhood for the van to sail over.
Nice catch Sal, also Blaine what the hell do you think you are doing? Swerving is not going to do anything but put you in more danger and likely cause a crash. What is he thinking?
Like many of us Blaine has seen years or decades of Hollywood action films. Unlike most of us Blaine seems to think he can duplicate those scenes in real live.
Clearly that mask of his is either affecting the blood flow to his brain or making him feel invulnerable and thus causing his logic to be at an all-time low.
CrazyJ
I mean if he was thinking he would have never tried bringing Joyce along with him on his escape. How many times has taking a photogenic white girl hostage worked out well for the kidnapper?
Maybe this is like those Road Runner cartoons where the Coyote sees the Road Runner go through a tunnel painted on the wall, and then tries it himself. Splat.
Sal and Amber have Action Hero Powers. Blaine just has General Dumbassery.
I have been arguing lately that Blaine is startlingly irrational when it comes to the question of his ability to escape justice. I think escaping death may also be in there.
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Discussion (243) - “Replicate”
Ana Chronistic
be gay
doreport crimesbutts
“be gay do crimes” only applies to rad crimes, like arson
not lame crimes, like kidnapping
Rose by Any Other Name
In some states, it can also refer to sexy crimes. Like butt sex. At least until those old laws get repealed.
Wizard
Formal repeal would be nice, but at least they’re unenforceable.
Chris Phoenix
No, sex laws are not unenforceable. It wasn’t many years ago that, in a nasty divorce, a wife accused her husband of a consensual but illegal sex act – and he went to prison.
SuperZero
“I accuse you of the two of us doing something illegal together” sounds like a bad idea.
Benjamin Geiger
Where did this happen?
In the US, Lawrence v. Texas pretty much prevents that.
clif
But that’s only since 2003. I guess it depends on what you mean by recent.
Kaz
“Enforceable” doesn’t mean it wont come up in court. It means you wont be arrested for just that. I personally refer to them as “leech laws” because they only exist by clinging onto others.
SalleighG
“Unenforceable” laws can still be charged and proceed through the court system. They can still land you in jail for the charging process, and you can still be assessed bail for them that is higher than you can afford, and if you cannot afford that bail then you can still end up in jail for extended periods awaiting trial. Getting yourself acquitted can still effectively require hiring a lawyer (because in some areas public defender funds have been slashed a lot).
Furthermore, you can still be convicted of an offence that is on the books but which has been ruled against in the past, requiring that you appeal. You can lose the appeal too.
You as a person living in the USA might know well that “morally speaking” your circumstances should be covered by Lawrence vs Texas, but that doesn’t stop an ambitious anti-lgbt state government from itching to make an example of someone and claim that Lawrence does not apply because “state’s rights” or claiming that Lawrence does not apply in all circumstances. Possibly even hoping that SCOTUS has been sufficiently stacked by now that Lawrence can be overturned. For example a state could decide that it was “reasonable” that sodomy should be illegal for anyone under the age at which alcohol is permitted, the idea that “for the safety of” the people and the public that some activities should be regulated until 21 or whatever age.
A major case such as Lawrence does not prevent you from being charged with laws that are still on the books: it just means that IF you have enough time and financial resources to take the case sufficiently high then you should win.
Look at the Obergefell experiences: some states (with full internal political backing) claimed that the decision did not apply in their state, or that OK so maybe they had to permit marriage but they did not have to pay pensions in same-sex cases, and so on.
Prosecutors love having unenforceable laws, because it gives them *leverage*. Poor people, minorities, trans people, can’t afford to fight the cases, so people plea bargain, accepting convictions for things that would surely *eventually* be dismissed. Including in states where the conviction will result in loss of voting rights: the “unenforceable” laws are absolutely being used as a tool for political repression.
Why does this work in law? Because rulings such as Lawrence do not wipe laws off the books, they only provide a potential defense, and in law a court is entitled to hold a trial and hear evidence about what occurred and force the defence to prove that the circumstances are covered by the major ruling.
And imagine if you are an undocumented person or a person who has applied for citizenship: if you live in a state with the “unenforceable” laws on the books, the police know well that the laws are an opportunity to throw you into the legal system that might even convict you but very likely will throw you out of the country. It is LEGAL in some states to prevent someone on bail from appearing at an administrative immigration hearing with the result of losing right of residence, even when it is known full well that the original charges are likely to result in a Not Guilty verdict. People that this happens to often lose their immigration appeals. It is not considered an irreparable harm because in theory the person can re-apply for immigration. Police know this. Undocumented people and immigrants know this. So it is more or less blackmail material, and is used that way.
BrokenEye, the True False Prophet
Arson and arsein’
Rose by Any Other Name
In some states, it can also refer to sexy crimes. Like butt sex. At least until those old laws get repealed.
Rose by Any Other Name
… crap. Something went weird and posted my comment twice.
He Who Abides
It was worth it.
adam Black
sloppy seconds happenned
Kaidah
This is the greatest reply to an accidental double post ever. Well done, sir.
Rose by Any Other Name
Indeed.
I always enjoy those, so I suppose all is well.
Achallenger
Maybe they wouldn’t still be on the books if they weren’t so repealing
Hex Hornet
Or eXtortion!
“The ‘X’ makes is sound cool!”
Hex Hornet
*it*
(dang faulty typing fingers!)
Ivresse
Arson isn’t a rad crime.
The idiots burning 5g towers because they think they spread coronavirus for example, aren’t doing rad crimes.
EvilMidnightLurker
Burning Minneapolis police stations, now…
Vabolo
That’s hot
Strangeshapes
Burning down 5g towers takes away my internet, driving me out of my home seclusion, ironically increasing my likelihood of getting/spreading coronavirus …
It’s a CONSPIRACY, man!
OtterBoy1
I’m just waiting for the truck that got Ruth in Roomies! and almost got Amber and co. that last time to come and fuck everyone’s shit up some more.
Doctor_Who
Man, Optimus Prime never should have had that one night stand with Christine, their offspring is nothing but trouble.
chris2315
Maybe if he really tries, Truck-kun can isekai them all away from this shitty situation.
Man, I really wish Truck-kun would isekai me away from this shitty situation.
Nejireon
Yeah but then you’ll end up in Byston Well and you’ll have to become an Aura Battler. Do you really want to get involved in Drake Luft’s war?
chris2315
Does it… does it have to be that one? Can’t I just go to one of the chill ones where I can be a cute anime girl and go on fun adventures?
Undrave
Look, we all want to be cute anime girls, but you’re gonna have to go face the Demon King okay?
Khyrin
I’d consider fighting the Demon King to be a fair trade for being a Cute Animé Girl.
drs
That really depends on what genre you’re in!
drs
Or maybe on what kinks you bring to the genre.
Strangeshapes
what about a Cute Animé Girl who turns out to be a Demon King?
… hey, we all have our kinks.
clif
Yeah, I’ve been waiting for the truck to appear ever since the chase started.
butts
don’t worry faz, amber’s already got enough danger fetish for one family
Hex Hornet
Maybe it RUNS in the family!
THAT would be awesomely horrendous!
… or Horrendously Awesome!
Kali
Amazingly Horrendous or Horrendously Amazing?
Seemed like a missed opportunity, haha
Giguioto
Sal can hold a 16 year old flying at her with a single arm while STILL balancing on her motorcycle. Sal is stronk!
abysswatcher1993
Or Willis just abandoned any sense of realism because we all know deep down he wants to do silly scifi action antics again.
DailyBrad
God forbid.
SuperZero
The things is, “realism” has been, uh, different. Lately.
Strangeshapes
Funny how six months ago this story arc would have been ridiculously grim-dark. And then Reality took a look, laughed at Willis and said, “Hold my beer.”
Wereg
It’s been looking that way lately.
Needfuldoer
‘Member when Sal caught Amazi-ber before she went splat on the grille of a Peterbilt?
Giguioto
I do, but she had Joyce to counter-balance
Jhon
Sal is Amazing!
BigDogLittleCat
Laws of physics have always been optional to Amazi-Girl. It appears her field of influence has spread. As has her impact on probability and need for suspension of disbelief.
I hope there are no sharks in the neighborhood for the van to sail over.
Chris
Freshwater sharks can swim up the Ohio River into Indiana.
Chris
Broken link was supposed to go here: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/kidnapped/
chris2315
The Unholy Dad Alliance? Is that what we’re going with? I was hoping for a better acronym, like the Dastardly Alliance of Dads.
Chris
That name is precisely targeted at her dad, the Righteous Christian Man.
Kamino Neko
The Dads of EVIL. DEVIL.
King Daniel
The Dastardly Dad Duo.
The DDD.
Opus the Poet
Nah, the Dastardly Dad Tandem, DDT. I kill ’em…
Reltzik
Oh, definitely DDD. Toedad and Blaine are/were such big boo- *vaudeville hook*
Tobias
My vote was “Evil League of Dads”, or maybe “Dadxis of Evil”.
Deanatay
I always went for ‘Coalition of Evil Dads’, because the acronym is COED, which describes their targets.
Deanatay
(And YES, I know ‘of’ isn’t usually part of an acronym, but it works better if it is in this case, so I’ve allowed it.)
Kyrik Michalowski
Nice catch Sal, also Blaine what the hell do you think you are doing? Swerving is not going to do anything but put you in more danger and likely cause a crash. What is he thinking?
Hephaistos Fnord
It’s classic zero-sum thinking. It hurts someone who is thwarting my plans, so it must be helping my plans.
Kyrik Michalowski
It’s scary to think how many people might think like that on a regular basis.
Geneseepaws
It’s scary to think how many Top level politicians think just like that.
Chris
We know that a certain man who currently lives in a white house believes that he hasn’t won unless someone else has lost.
SuperZero
Some stop three words in. “It hurts someone” is more than enough.
tim gueguen
Like many of us Blaine has seen years or decades of Hollywood action films. Unlike most of us Blaine seems to think he can duplicate those scenes in real live.
Kyrik Michalowski
Clearly that mask of his is either affecting the blood flow to his brain or making him feel invulnerable and thus causing his logic to be at an all-time low.
CrazyJ
I mean if he was thinking he would have never tried bringing Joyce along with him on his escape. How many times has taking a photogenic white girl hostage worked out well for the kidnapper?
Doctor_Who
I mean, Sal’s doing so pretty well.
Maybe this is like those Road Runner cartoons where the Coyote sees the Road Runner go through a tunnel painted on the wall, and then tries it himself. Splat.
Sal and Amber have Action Hero Powers. Blaine just has General Dumbassery.
EvilMidnightLurker
I have been arguing lately that Blaine is startlingly irrational when it comes to the question of his ability to escape justice. I think escaping death may also be in there.
thejeff